Game Save Battery Mod

Includes but not limited to: SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, PlayStation 1, Nintendo 64, Dreamcast, Game Gear and I guess the Virtual Boy.

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Game Save Battery Mod

Post by Kurt_ »

Ok first off I have yet to try this (hopefully soon I will though) and am not sure if everything is hooked up right in my diagram. I chose to go with a Li-Ion battery because to get the required 3 volts, you'd need at least 2 Ni-MH batteries.

The Battery should be a small, low capacity Li-Ion or other small battery that will fit into a SNES case (plenty of room in there though, so go wild).

My only concern is that Li-Ion can only be recharged about 500 times.

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If I ever do succesfully complete this mod, I will bump this topic with a How-to complete with pictures of my hands!

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Note: Pin 5 is ground and Pin 58 is +5V.


Perhaps this battery with a protection circuit (which is one inch at it's maximum length) would suffice.
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Post by Triton »

so what is the goal of this?
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Post by Skyone »

Shoot, I think it's to store game saves, but I'm personally clueless.
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Post by Turbo Tax 1.0 »

i thin he wants to put some li-ions in his snes carts? it might work but i think it would be pretty useless because in 10 years who knows were the cart will be? funny thing i found when changing the batteries in my snes carts, if you change them fast enought the data will not be erased :D it doesnt really matter i guess because if you are changing the batteryu there would be no save yay or my useless ramblings
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Turbo Tax 1.0 wrote:i thin he wants to put some li-ions in his snes carts? it might work but i think it would be pretty useless because in 10 years who knows were the cart will be? funny thing i found when changing the batteries in my snes carts, if you change them fast enought the data will not be erased :D it doesnt really matter i guess because if you are changing the batteryu there would be no save yay or my useless ramblings
I never knew any of that, actually...
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Post by gannon »

I think he wants to put a li-ion to replace the current coin battery of a game, and wire it up so that when it's plugged into the snes it gets charged.

A few problems I see, mainly that you'd need a charging circuit too and a way to cut of power to the battery but not the ICs when it's fully charged.
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Post by JeffMan »

Why don't you just sacrifice your current game save and just replace the battery inside? It only takes 10 minutes and you get another good 10 years. I did it on my Pokemon Gold cart, and I've already gotten a battery for when my EB cart dies.
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JeffMan wrote:Why don't you just sacrifice your current game save and just replace the battery inside? It only takes 10 minutes and you get another good 10 years. I did it on my Pokemon Gold cart, and I've already gotten a battery for when my EB cart dies.
I didn't know that the battery actually did something! When I found out it was an internal clock, I though it told time!
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Post by Turbo Tax 1.0 »

yeah i just bought 5 or 6 batteries and a gamebit and rep[laced all of my favorite and dying games batteries and now i dont have to worry at all :D
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Post by Skyone »

Turbo Tax 1.0 wrote:yeah i just bought 5 or 6 batteries and a gamebit and rep[laced all of my favorite and dying games batteries and now i dont have to worry at all :D
Wouldn't that delete the game save though?
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Post by JeffMan »

Yeah, it deletes it once you remove the battery.

How game saves are stored: there's an IC inside the SNES cart that has some SRAM in it. Just like RAM for your computer. If you turn your computer off (ie, deplete the power source), then the RAM data is gone. Same with an SNES cart. The battery is there to keep the SRAM alive. Once you disconnect the battery, the SRAM is gone. Although, I heard somewhere that it might be like a BIOS chip where the data stays in there for like 30 seconds after you unpower it. So if you wanna go through the trouble of trying to save it, just rip out the battery and replace it quickly :P That rumor is probably false, though.

Edit: You don't need a gamebit either, my pair of needlenose pliers work awesome for opening SNES, N64, and GB games.
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Post by Skyone »

Well that blows, so every ten years game saves just get deleted? Wow, and I blamed my brother for deleting my Super Mario Bros. 2 gamesave.
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Post by gannon »

If you're smart you just have to hook up a 3V source to the battery spots before replacing the battery and remove them when done so your game doesn't reset.
Of course, if you take too long there's a risk of damaging the battery :P
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Post by Skyone »

With my luck, when I do this to my gameboy games, I blow 'em up.
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Post by Krepticor »

this may sound lke gaming suicide but I remove the case...except for gameboys games they are too small for this to work....but anyway

Remove the case of the SNES game and play it in the SNES

Yes play the SNES cart naked

then load your save and while it sits there running

REplace the battery.

Then resave to enjoy another tens years of bliss.

PS I think ten years is a bit short since i live in a humid climate and my batteries are still running strong.
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