NiMh not okay?

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NiMh not okay?

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http://www.modded-by-bacteria.com/index ... =Batteries wrote:
NiMH - Common rechargables, however they have a big drawback - once they finish charging they lose voltage and power...
so i dedcided to go with li-ion after consulting http://www.modded-by-bacteria.com.

so i came up with this :http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Li-Ion-Battery-N ... .m63.l1177

this looks perfectly fine to me, but i decided to consult the forums before ordering it.

BTW how much playing time would this battery give me?
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Post by Tibia »

That is a huge battery. Even if you cut it open and flatten it out, it's still taking up a lot of space.


Do you know the mAh draw of your system and screen? Divide 4200 by that total draw to figure out your playing time.
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Post by exploding.monkey »

i know its big but my case still has space and anyway, i really wasnt thinking of opening it up.
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Post by bacteria »

Same sort of price you can get the Canon BP-915 batteries, slimline ones (as I use), 20mm tall; 7.4v, 2000mA - get two, put them in parallel = 4000mA. Similar to yours, but far slimmer option.
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you mean hook 2 up to one adaptor? how much are these again?
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Post by bacteria »

Yes, set them in parallel. One charger.
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okey doke.
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Post by Kyo »

I want to add that Ni-Mhs aren't that bad. They have disadvantages, as bacteria correctly points out, but they're still not a bad choice in a portable. I was able to run a SNES (no screen) 8 hours with 4 2600mA Ni-Mh AAs. That's 4.8V at the beginning, so they should still work just fine in a portable. Li-ions are indeed a more elegant solution, but depending on what you want to do (run it on AAs, because you can buy multiple sets, go for something cheaper) Ni-Mhs are just fine.

Not trying to stop you from using Li-ions, don't get me wrong.
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Personally, I use NiMh because they're so cheap and easy to get. I'm aware of the voltage loss over time, but it does what I need it to, so I'm not complaining.
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Post by marshallh »

Correction - batteries only lose voltage and "power" when they're overcharged.

If your Ni-MH pack is getting worse and it's not that old, you're not taking care of it. Getting a decent delta peak-type smart charger will solve your problems.

Same thing goes for Li-ion packs, but the overcharging protection is mandatory because they'll explode instead of just losing capacity.
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Post by Kyo »

a charger with overcharging protection costs like 15€ over here, are there still people cheap enough to use ones that will just charge as long as you let them?
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Post by bicostp »

Unfortunately.

A decent smart charger around here costs $20, a dumb charger costs $10 and comes with 2 rechargeable AAs. What do you think people look at, the quality or the dollar signs? (Hint: Think about how Wal-Mart and IKEA stay in business.)
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bicostp wrote:Unfortunately.

A decent smart charger around here costs $20, a dumb charger costs $10 and comes with 2 rechargeable AAs. What do you think people look at, the quality or the dollar signs? (Hint: Think about how Wal-Mart and IKEA stay in business.)

*shrug* Whatever. They do what I need them to do, and I can get the batteries from the local store. No waiting for the flippin' post office to find my house. I can also replace them with regular alkalines any time I feel like it, so I've got no reason to use anything else.
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Post by exploding.monkey »

...batteries only lose voltage and "power" when they're overcharged...
you mean they don't slowly 'die' by themselves?

also, how do you know you've overcharged them? (how do you know you're finished charging?)
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Post by bacteria »

I just use Li-ions now for my projects. As you say, the batteries have built in protection; and using a proper charger designed for that type of battery, with its own protections, makes life easy.

The Canon BP-911 (or BP-915, similar) Li-ions come in fat (40mm high) or thin (20mm high) versions. The fat is 4400mA and the thin 2000mA (or 1750mA, I get the 2000mA ones) each. I therefore put two thin cells in parallel, making 4000mA in total and can therefore connect them to a single charger.
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