Time for Rebellion?

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Time for Rebellion?

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Okay. Bushes last days in office are becoming a dig-fest of the ever-deepening pit straight to hell.

Did you hear he signed off of our rights? Well, more than one, but this one is just plain wrong. Basically he signed something that said that local police can start criminal files on people...For NO reason. They can literally see you walking down the street, not like the shirt you have on, start a file, run a wire-tap, and keep it "For future reference". Our right of privacy is gone.

What the hell is this? The Land of the Free is somewhat of an illusion right now. Granted, this can be fairly easily undone by Obama when he gets office, but the fact that he did it at all roasts my sizable nuts.

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Discuss this? Am I the only one roasted by what hes doing? Is it revenge on his part? If so, why?

Oh, by the way: Sourced from: MSNBC.
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Post by Triton »

our right have pretty much been gone since the USA PATRIOT act was enacted
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All you Americans gave up any chance of rights when all you criminals left our wonderful country to start your own cesspool of flithy and crime you call a country.


...is what I would say if I was a biased Canadian stuck in 1812. :D
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Kurt_ wrote:All you Americans gave up any chance of rights when all you criminals left our wonderful country to start your own cesspool of flithy and crime you call a country.


...is what I would say if I was a biased Canadian stuck in 1812. :D
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Re: Time for Rebellion?

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I wouldn't hold my breath expecting Obama to do anything about this.

He voted to give the telecom companies immunity when they provide phone records to government agencies for their investigations. So basically a person whose "rights" have been violated in that way has little to no recourse anymore.

This (along with voting for the bailout) are the two key reasons why he didn't get my vote. Again, don't expect things to change for the better just because Bush is leaving office...
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No more freedom? time to move to canada.
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Re: Time for Rebellion?

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HBN wrote: but the fact that he did it at all roasts my sizable nuts.


Way, way, way too much info.



But regarding the actual topic, doesn't bug me one bit. It's the world I've been living in since Homeland (in)Security was instituted and granted insane amounts of jurisdiction. I'm so used to it now, I can't be arsed to care. I live right on the US/Canada border, and the Border Patrol's already been doing this for at least seven years. I've been pulled over for driving a U-Haul truck past the police station. Not two blocks from where I live is a massive cement building with electrified iron fences. It's the Border Patrol's stronghold. They have complete and total jurisdiction on something like 50 miles on either side of the border. I can be at a party at a cabin in the middle of the woods, and they can show up and tell us to break it up.



This is nothing new. It's already been happening for a while. *yawn*
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Link, please. Link! :shock:
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Yeah the government sucks. Obama's gonna change stuff though, unfortunately that doesn't include cutting back on the government's grossly inflating power over it's citizens.
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Post by Bibin »

themadhacker wrote:No more freedom? time to move to canada.
That is like saying "This drinking glass is dirty, so I can't drink from it. I'll just take a crap in it instead. Problem solved!"
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Oh, there will be a rebellion in this country sooner or later, but from the other side of the aisle. I love it how you children whine and complain every time the government passes an action like the Patriot Act that has not changed your life at all (and quite frankly, they were doing it already, as is every government; ours just had the courtesy to let you retards know) but when REAL tyranny takes place like robbing people of their earnings for "the common good," it's all fair game. You know, if I went into someone's home and took their money to distribute it as I pleased, that's called robbery. You realize just how backwards that is? The government has pointed guns at far more people for refusing to pay taxes than they ever have for any sort of terrorist activity they've managed to uproot, do you all support that? And your source being MSLSD, MSKGB, PMSNBC, take your pick, doesn't speak well for your judgment. That's like me trying to cite Rush Limbaugh as an objective reporter.

At this point, I just wish someone would start up this power struggle already, I wanna get it over with ASAP so I can discern if this country is still worth my time or not.

EDIT: By the way, can you give me any stories on the government illegally accessing records and destroying people's lives during the Bush administration that aren't from crazy left-wing bloggers? Obama's not even in office yet and he's already had a man's records illegally pulled up and reported on and is trying to prosecute a man for being critical of the coming administration. And oh, I'm sorry, is the Fairness Doctrine now all of a sudden not in violation of our First Amendment rights? Last time I checked it was the Dems that tried to push that one through. :roll:

EDIT II: And wait, where the hell is the link on this one? You know something like this would have to pass through the House and Senate first, which are controlled by Liberal Democrats? Unless it was some kind of Executive Order, and even those would have strict Dem oversight.
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Re: Time for Rebellion?

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To begin,
HBN wrote:, but the fact that he did it at all roasts my sizable nuts.
only those who need to build themselves talk about something like that. you must be a tiny person, both literally and metaphorically.


Secondly,
HBN wrote:\

Did you hear he signed off of our rights? Well, more than one, but this one is just plain wrong. Basically he signed something that said that local police can start criminal files on people...For NO reason. They can literally see you walking down the street, not like the shirt you have on, start a file, run a wire-tap, and keep it "For future reference". Our right of privacy is gone.
Patriot act, where have you been? a bit tough to take you seriously when you haven't payed any attention to politics in the last 7 years and then attempt to tlak politically.

Thirdly,
HBN wrote:Granted, this can be fairly easily undone by Obama when he gets office
yet another pont to prove your political incompetency. Nothing is easily done in Washington, no matter what you hear from the liberal media

and finally,
HBN wrote:
Oh, by the way: Sourced from: MSNBC.
:? ohh, well then its gotta be true, because MSNBC isn't a crazy, wacko, bush-hating, liberal media outlet.
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Triton wrote:our right have pretty much been gone since the USA PATRIOT act was enacted
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Post by down w/ OPP, you know me »

CronoTriggerfan wrote:Oh, there will be a rebellion in this country sooner or later, but from the other side of the aisle. I love it how you children whine and complain every time the government passes an action like the Patriot Act that has not changed your life at all (and quite frankly, they were doing it already, as is every government; ours just had the courtesy to let you retards know) but when REAL tyranny takes place like robbing people of their earnings for "the common good," it's all fair game. You know, if I went into someone's home and took their money to distribute it as I pleased, that's called robbery. You realize just how backwards that is? The government has pointed guns at far more people for refusing to pay taxes than they ever have for any sort of terrorist activity they've managed to uproot, do you all support that? And your source being MSLSD, MSKGB, PMSNBC, take your pick, doesn't speak well for your judgment. That's like me trying to cite Rush Limbaugh as an objective reporter.

At this point, I just wish someone would start up this power struggle already, I wanna get it over with ASAP so I can discern if this country is still worth my time or not.

EDIT: By the way, can you give me any stories on the government illegally accessing records and destroying people's lives during the Bush administration that aren't from crazy left-wing bloggers? Obama's not even in office yet and he's already had a man's records illegally pulled up and reported on and is trying to prosecute a man for being critical of the coming administration. And oh, I'm sorry, is the Fairness Doctrine now all of a sudden not in violation of our First Amendment rights? Last time I checked it was the Dems that tried to push that one through. :roll:

QFT


and josh, come on FTW, seriously lets organize, go call up the local militia and start or takeover. I still have the map :)
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