The Nintendo Code: Wii's Final Secret

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The Nintendo Code: Wii's Final Secret

Post by benheck »

What better way to spend a beautiful Wisconsin day than sitting around reading forums? Well, I rode bike for awhile, so I guess I'm OK.

ANYWAY I guess the big thing now is the "Final Secret of Wii" which sounds like a Don Bluth film. Still, the rumors are interesting...

Does it project images into 3D space in front of your TV? Does it eyeToy your living room onto the screen and let you do stuff?

Now everyone here knows I am pretty anti-Nintendo, but if they do pull off some amazing feat with this "Final Secret" and it blows people away, who knows? I guess it's being revealed at E3, like this Tuesday.

Speculate away! Now, remember, keep it to "What the Secret Is" not "Which Consoles rULz the Best lol OMB nOOb"
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Post by Lucretius »

Name change? :wink:

I hope it's the promise of a bunch of great games. That they have some super-power writer/designer up their sleves are are just waiting to unleash him. Creating a slew of games that neither company could beat; even EA games would crumble.

Past that, I doubt it really matters...
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Post by stuartjmoore »

wheres everyone getting this 'final secret' from? Ive heard so much about it, but nothing offical.


Im scared the internet over hyped it (ie Apple), but itll still be cool...


With that, I say.... <s>external harddrive for those usb ports?</s> something connecting the DS and the Wii
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Yeah, a name change would be nice. ;)

I doubt they're going to come out with any amazing first party games. Not to piss off fanboys, but check the past. Every system since the SNES has had these types of games:
- Legend of Zelda "run around adventuring" games
- "Mario saves the princess" games
- "Mario racing" game
- Metroid "run-around-and-shoot-stuff" games

Their games are awfully repetitive, adding little to the gameplay of the previous games besides fancier graphics and maybe a plot twist. Name several games that were actually 100% innovative for the SNES, N64, or gamecube.

It's not just Nintendo, either. Most sports games now have minimal changes between them; aside from team changes and updated textures, I see no difference between Madden 2004 and 2005.

And people wonder how I have any fun playing "old" games. You kids can have your fancy new Wii or 360 or whatever, I don't have any interest in getting any of the new systems. I think it's more fun to play Crash Team Racing or Sonic the Hedgehog 2 than it is to spend 10 times as much on new hardware.

One of my classmates is spoiled out the bum, and he's already got a 360 and most of the games for it, and a bunch of other new systems with a big library of games. (Mostly because when he was younger his mother bought him stuff to pacify him, and that trend still follows to this day.) He can't understand how anyone could have any fun with "old" video games. ("Old" referring to anything older than Xbox/PS2/GCN, including Dreamcast.) I never had anything fancy when I was little; I played freeware games on the Mac IIci. We had a 2600, but it didn't get too much use until I had built up a library of games for it from yard sales and thrift stores. It wasn't until '97 when we bought the Playstation that I started playing video games, but I mostly used the Mac software.

Long story short, I don't care for any of the new systems. They're just over-hyped upgrades to current games. Older games are more fun anyways! *hugs Genesis* *hugs NES* *hugs PSX* *goes to garage* *hugs 2600*
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Post by legoboy »

If they do have something extra up their sleeve, I doubt it's a connection to a DS. A connection to a DS sounds like it'll exist (like GBA to a GC) but not as the uber 1337 whatever the whatever they have in store for us. Think about it, DS connection does seem a no brainer. First the Wii will let you aim the controllers at the screen. Okay, so what. Well, You can to this fast "aiming" on a DS too, it's called the touch screen. Anywho, for what they have in store for us, I dunno. Personally my speculation is that the Wii will be the system released with the most titles right off the bat.
bicostp wrote:Yeah, a name change would be nice. ;)

Long story short, I don't care for any of the new systems. They're just over-hyped upgrades to current games. Older games are more fun anyways! *hugs Genesis* *hugs NES* *hugs PSX* *goes to garage* *hugs 2600*
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Post by Motoman »

My guess is that it has to do with the online because the name is supposed to symbolize, playing together/a gaming community and since the system is named after that, then its got to be a biggie. Maybe you'll be able to play old classics online, and/or something that competes with Xbox Live but for free. But i really think that it has something to do with the way you see games because of all the mysterious qoutes. Well wake me up when we're at E3. (http://revolution.ign.com/articles/705/705415p1.html , check it outs its good)
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Post by daguuy »

it probably has something to do with online, retro downloads, or the controller. i agree with bic, older stuff rox
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Post by codeman »

I bet their final secret is some weird controller that looks like a remote and you can wave it around to do stuff. That would be sweet.

bicostp wrote: I doubt they're going to come out with any amazing first party games. Not to piss off fanboys, but check the past. Every system since the SNES has had these types of games:
- Legend of Zelda "run around adventuring" games
I agree with you about the new systems...it seems game quality goes down as graphics go up. I don't agree with the "no innovations since SNES" statement though. Even if you don't like Ocarina of Time, you at least have to respect it for the amazing leap in gameplay that it provided, and the control innovations that have been duplicated... but never improved upon.

My excitement about new systems basically ended after I got a PS1 (in like 2002). After that there was way too much emphasis on graphics. The old style SNES RPGs are defintely where it's at.
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Post by Nicholai »

While I don't know what the feature is, it better be something BIG to pull in a larger fanbase, or they're boned (not as bad as Microsoft though.).
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Post by wallydawg »

I'm going to say it's going to be something stupid or something that just won't pan out, for no perticular reason at all. It's just the last few new things they have tried out didn't really work all that well (e.g. Gamecube modem [if this ever even came out idk], gameboy e-reader, 64dd)...
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Post by teraflop122 »

I smell a gimmick, and I will be very disappointed with Nintendo if it is.

I'm pretty sure the talk about 3D projections is nonsense. You would either need a pair of glasses- the perfect accessory to go missing- or a large and impractical TV-mounted device. The technology exists for goggle-less 3D projections, but it requires a specially engineered LCD screen made specifically for that purpose (you can find some laptops featuring them).
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Lucretius wrote:Name change? :wink:

I hope it's the promise of a bunch of great games. That they have some super-power writer/designer up their sleves are are just waiting to unleash him. Creating a slew of games that neither company could beat; even EA games would crumble.

Past that, I doubt it really matters...
I don't know if even Nintendo's designers can take down the might of Square-Enix. They have so many big guns they can pull out whenever they want; Chrono Break, FF XIV (didn't see THAT coming), a FFVI/VII remake (rumored), or hell; they may even decide to make a GOOD 3D Seiken Densetsu game. Whereas Nintendo has Link, Mario, and the occasional Samus. And no, Star Fox doesn't count.

Anyways, as far as "Wii's secret", I hope it's something that'll make the player more interactive with the game than ever before, while not screwing itself *cough* power glove *cough*. And where did you see the "Secret of Wii" (hey, I smell a new RPG!)? Is it announced that Nintendo has something planned, or are you just assuming they'd say something like this to take away attention from the other competitors?

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Post by Super Cameraman »

Wait... you don't know about the whole controller thing!? It's a gyro mouse. Only different. That's all. No camera. No 3d goggles. It's a remote... and you wave it around as a sword... or aim it as a gun.


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Post by NES_fanatic »

bicostp wrote:Name several games that were actually 100% innovative for the SNES, N64, or gamecube.
SNES- Starfox, F-zero, Uniracers
N64- Goldeneye (defines FPS's as we know it), Super Mario 64 (defines platformers as we know it), Super Smash Bros
GCN- Erm.. okay I've got nothing.
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Post by Skyone »

GCN: Pikmin, Metroid Prime, Animal Crossing (if you don't count Animal Forest for N64), Donkey Konga and such. There are a ton more, just nothing too big.

Examples: Pokemon Colosseum, Mario Baseball, Super Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventures... *ahem* Luigi's Mansion.
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