Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft VS The World

[Darth Fett]

Here's it for me:
X-box 360:Not many games I like, but still looks like a great system.
Ps3:A good launch line up, but too expensive.
Revalution(or Wii):Great launch games, low price, but motion sensetive controller is scaring away game makers.

[NES_fanatic]

Xbox 360:
A 256 bit extension and graphical shell to a 128 patch to a 64 bit operating system originally coded for a 16 bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.

[Shadeslayer]

Rules? I don't listen to made-up, unofficial rules.

"suxxorz," "sucks," "awesome," "roolz," aren't allowed?

The PS3's controller suxxors, the price sucks, the graphics are awesome, and their arrogance roolz.

Changing batteries on a 360 controller suxxors, 360 game pricing sucks, the systems design is awesome, and the spring dashboard update roolz.

The Wii's sensor bar suxxors, the name no longer sucks, the games are gonna be awesome, and it just plain roolz.

Wait a freakin minute! You say the "360 game pricing sucks... How do you know the Wii or the PS3 pricings wont be more?!? YOU DONT KNOW! so dont diss anything unless you have checked pricing, played, or even seen in person! So shut up (not trying to be mean but just ticked!)

[MM007]

Xbox 360:
A 256 bit extension and graphical shell to a 128 patch to a 64 bit operating system originally coded for a 16 bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.

Clever, but somewhat irrelevant...also, I believe Windows and DOS ran originally on the 808x line, 8-bit microprocessors, if that's what you're refering to. Anyway, about the systems, here is what I can currently determine/infer. If I make errors, please correct me.

I believe that if properly utilized and developed, the PS3 will have the most raw hardware power, looking at specifications. However, the Cell is a relatively new technology, especially in a consumer market. The videos from E3 2005 were impressive, and as pre-launch engines and launch titles were shown, it may get better, if it hasn't in the year since. Compatibility with Playstation and PS2 games is another plus. The Unreal 3 engine rendered beautifly in real time, managing levels of detail normally found in cutscenes. One issue though was that in scenes where lots of movement was visible, such as many characters and bots, as well as extensive environmental movement like water, the frames would be drawn incorrectly starting about 2/3rds of the way down the screen, almost as if the lower third of the previous frame still existed in graphics memory. There could be many causes for this, and it may have already been corrected, but it is something to watch out for.

The "batarang" controller, I never touched, so I will not judge. I thought the NGC controller would be funky to hold by its unconventional shape, but it felt fine, and was merely designed differently. Since then, I withold general judgement on controllers, but will note specifics which may make the controller uncomfortable. The batarang controller may have worked fine, but the older design is tried and true, save the new additions. Some think that Sony is stealing the technology, and maybe it is. However, it may be the only way to become compatible with some game types, which would otherwise be Wii-only releases. It seems underhanded and tricky, but if utilized correctly, may be a smart and necessary business move, if a slightly underhanded one.


The Xbox 360 I reserve judgement on, as I have little data other than specifications, have never played it, and have little knowledge of PowerPC-based architecture. All I can say is that the first one out the door isn't always the best, but getting a foothold in the market before the others is generally a smart move...if you can hold them with your platform and avoid letting them migrate.

With a more tech-savvy generation present that can actually begin to see differences in console hardware and play, well established franchises, and the better distribution of data of all the consoles via the internet, word of all three consoles had reached the public before the first console even arrived. Some people who want a Wii or PS3 know to wait, and being first, while offering an advantage, isn't the strangle-hold it used to be.


The Wii, with NGC compatibility in both the games and controllers, as well as the innovations suggested looks promising. Furthermore, the library of Nintendo, Sega, and I think TurboGrafx16 games will likely be a plus, if properly utilized. It may also see an end for the need to "repackage" older games on the console, though we may still see it on the DS, allwing Nintendo to focus on a bit more original content than we have seen on the past couple consoles, especially since the controller system has the hardware to permit such innovation, again, if properly utilized.

Using the Wii's "Nunchaku" controller is something I can't really imagine, so I can't say if it will be good or bad. However, even though it wouldn't support the newer innovations, the knowledge that the Gamecube controller can be used is calming. Whether the Wii will succeed depends on legacy gamers as well as strong support of its new features. I believe that this has been marginally successful in the DS, but the dual screens have not yet had the support they deserve. We'll just have to see what happens with the Wii, though it has vast potential.

[NES_fanatic]

Wow, you should apply for a PhD in something....
All I was saying was in joke, I didn't think it would have much accuracy.

In a nutshell, these are my predictions:
The PS3 will do poorly at launch, unless a price drop can be managed.
The Wii will show unpresidented, and possibly record-breaking launch sales, being so cheap and appealing.
The Xbox 360 will lock horns with Sony and by the end of 2006 have a motion-sensing knockoff controller.

I'm not going to bother saying "X will win, X will lose," as that's impossible.

[XPCportables]

My most unbiased opinion.

The next gen wars.

Xbox360: pros: odd looking yet still cool, some good games will come Ie. too human, powerful evin if a bit weak overall, much improved controller.
cons: very large, overheating problems, hdd failure problems (most liklely fixed by now), crap launch titles.
The verdict: X360=Xbox 1.5, for people who want next gen now, It will end up being pretty strong, but I think it was a little bit poorly planned. overall pretty good system.

PS3: pros: slick looking (some say it looks strange but I like it), most power of all of the next gen systems, GREAT controller (hey if it aint broke, don't fix it), very nice looking launch titles, highest definition output. True Next Gen. Though it is massive it still weighs less than the 360.
cons: massive, huge, has a full ps2 chipset in it, too expinsive.
The verdict: probably the strongest console in every area in this next generation, everything except the price point. guarunteed to have the best 3rd party support, and killer exclusives. If you can get over the price and the arrogance from Sony, it will probably be the most versitile console of the bunch.

WII: pros: Mario games, all first party games, super low price, very small, the controller, mega backwards compatability.
cons: the controller, less 3rd party support, no HD, the name.
The verdict: good for the kids, interesting games could come for it, the controller is a pro and con at the same time, the games that are designed around it will be awesome, but games that have to be adapted to it will not be so good.

The final word: Sony and Microsoft will have quite a fight this time around, Nintendo will rise and gain a good market share, they have Sony to partly thank for that, because since sony went with motion sensitivity as a feature as well, people won't find it so strange that that is the wii's controll system. If two of the three giants have motion sensitive control, people will accept it much better on both ends. Sony will MOST LIKELY come out on top, but not by quite as much as last round because of the price. M$ won't do so well and nintendo will thrive. Thank you for your time.
-XPC

[PancakeGoblin]

Rules? I don't listen to made-up, unofficial rules.

"suxxorz," "sucks," "awesome," "roolz," aren't allowed?

The PS3's controller suxxors, the price sucks, the graphics are awesome, and their arrogance roolz.

Changing batteries on a 360 controller suxxors, 360 game pricing sucks, the systems design is awesome, and the spring dashboard update roolz.

The Wii's sensor bar suxxors, the name no longer sucks, the games are gonna be awesome, and it just plain roolz.

Wait a freakin minute! You say the "360 game pricing sucks... How do you know the Wii or the PS3 pricings wont be more?!? YOU DONT KNOW! so dont diss anything unless you have checked pricing, played, or even seen in person! So shut up (not trying to be mean but just ticked!)

Yes, I said it sucks, because its the one out right now, so as much as I'd like to say it roolz, we just don't know. Maybe I'll say that the wii's pricing suxxors, and the PS3's will be awesome. Only time will tell.

[MM007]

...Please don't do that. The person is trying to make an intelligent thread, and made very reasonable requests to avoid the use of words normally associated with ignorant and irrelevant comments. Just degrading the thread to be spiteful is not appreciated.

[Javabrain]

while pancake goblin may be just joking around, he may be serious, in a twisted way. Maybe you should make your own thread, a sort of sister thread, debunking the hilarities behind all the systems. However, and i kid you not, it may devolve into a flame war.
Speaking of flame wars, or any console related war for that matter, it is a war for which you are trickedinto entering. Pick a system by how you like it's titles, not how other people react to it. Just a friendly reminder.

[Triton]

motion sensetive controller is scaring away game makers.

from what i have read you oculdnt be more wrong about that! its gotten a lot of developers interested! here are my opinions

PS3: i might be a bit biased against sony but ill try not to. from what i have read sony cant make up their friggen mind, they are constantly flip flopping, first it was a game console and now they are tryin to call it a computer or a "pc replacement" if they try to market it as such they are destined to fail. the sheer size of the console is another strike against sony, this thing makes the xbox look small! ive read nothing but bad news about the ps3 for the last few weeks and it isnt looking to change anytime soon, this system very well could be sonys first major failure to date as far as game systems go.

xbox 360: while it had problems early on they seem to be on the ball about fixing them, its a pretty nice looking machine and the controllers is an improvement over the original xbox controller, microsoft has done a pretty good job, its too expensive for me (and 60$ a pop for new games isnt helping much) but its pretty decent, i have nothing bad to say except that powerbrick is MASSIVE

wii: this little system is definatly looking to come out on top, there has been nothing but good press since the word go (aside from the furor about the name but that has subsided) while it might not be as powerful as the competitors (still gonna diliver better than xbo quality gfx) its massivly lower pricepoint (at most 250$) and innovative controll desing makes it a favorite for developers (they dig the wiimote) and consumers alike (cant argue with the price man!) i am uber excited about the wii and it will be the first system i have ever bought at launch (aside form my gp2x)

[Darth Fett]

Really?I've been reading the wrong stuff!Have you heard anything about Castlevania on the Rev?

[daguuy]

time for my opinion!

XBOX 230: it's pretty powerful, has some good games, but nothing to get very excited about. it's big, makes a ton of heat, and i've heard it has plenty of other hardware problems. so it's basically like a beefed up XBOX, which im not a big fan of but still not too bad.

PS3: it's probably gonna get lots of third party support so it should have lots of good games and be fun and all that stuff. the 7 controllers could make some kickass multiplayer games and i heard it's gonna have free online play which should bring even more kickass multiplayer stuff. also, most of the bad news and rumors and stuff about it have been denied and proven false so that's nothing to worry about. but i heard they were having heat problems so they underclocked it to 2.8ghz. still not too shabby, but less than what the price should give me. plus it's gonna have a new goldenaxe game which should be pretty awsome. only problems with it other than i said before is the price and the crippled $500 version. the controler should have favored rumble instead of motion sensing, but i heard they ditched it because of a copyright thing, which i can understand.

Wii: it's gonna roxxor and be awsome and stuff. the controller has tons of potential for FPS, beat 'em up, and pretty much any kind of game other than fighting games. it'll be sweet to actually shoot people and chop them up and all that stuff. there's alreay plenty of traditional games for me to play if it would happen to not deliver what i'm hoping for, which won't happen. the backwards compatibility is awsome because i'm gonna be able to get all the classic games i missed out on from not owning a SNES or finding games in stores and all that stuff. i'm really excited about it and will affordable so i might be able to get one. wiiiiiii!

[Triton]

most of the bad news and rumors and stuff about it have been denied and proven false so that's nothing to worry about.

denied yes, but thats sony, they lie about pretty much everything, and if by most have been proven false you mean like 2 things out of all the different stuff ive seen them mebe

[cennar]

i think the world wins.... yeah theres only one of it but its way bigger, plus no world no x-box.

[Skyone]

i think the world wins.... yeah theres only one of it but its way bigger, plus no world no x-box.

Right on.