save space with project boards

pezman · Post by **pezman** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:37 pm

i am thinkin of makin a portable nes but i want a pocket sized device so could you guys direct me to a non-glop-top noac so i could unsolder all the component and put them very close together on a grid-style-radio-shack board. it would have quite a few jumpers but it would help reduce ribbon cable connecting buttons and what not.

thanks-joe

ps id also prefer something that came with a cart slot, not to be picky but i dont want more soldering burns than neccesary

usbcd36 · Post by **usbcd36** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:46 pm

You don't have to keep the entire glop-top board, just the actual piece where the chip is. Scrape off some of the green insulator and solder wires directly to it. Also, some NOACs can have a controller wired directly to them, no glop-top board needed. The pinouts are in a thread by G-Force somewhere hereâ€¦

Edit: I guess this isn't what you meant, disregard this post

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:46 pm

I've never seen a non-glop noac, or any plug-n-play for that matter.

Post by **gannon** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:51 pm

they're all gloptop, the closest you could get is to rip the chip out of a tristar like Kevin Horton did

edit: damn anti hotlinking

In anycase, a superjoy III is way smaller than what someone could make by hand.

S q u e e ! · Post by **S q u e e !** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:53 pm

Oh, the piccy don't work?

"F**k you hotlinker", huh? Why I never...

pezman · Post by **pezman** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:54 pm

i kinda wanted a chip with pins so i could make the board real clean looking. can you buy just the chips anywhere? sorry for the dumb questions, it would just be so cool.

i guess im goin with the super 8. thanks guys

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:01 pm

Lets say you found the chip they used, and you somehow programmed it, it'd be surface-mounted, meaning you'd need a custom pcb. Just use the Superjoy.

usbcd36 · Post by **usbcd36** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:25 pm

Are you sure? The Super 8/Tristar 64 portables are EXTREMELY hard to make.

Just get yourself a Super Joy 3 and desolder the controller board ribbon cable. Connect a standard NES controller to the pins (as I said, G-force has a thread about this here) and you're good to go.

pezman · Post by **pezman** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:39 pm

ok, sounds good. no super 8 for me. but the day a pirate company goes insane and for no reason makes really nice non-glop top systems with stuff and what not (like rgb, yeah im dreamin) will be a good day indeed. thanks for your patience.

usbcd36 · Post by **usbcd36** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:06 pm

Hey, I'm wondering about something, what is the smallest (non-Super

NOAC? I want to fit it into a certain case and I need to know the width.

wallydawg · Post by **wallydawg** » Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:41 am

usbcd36 wrote:You don't have to keep the entire glop-top board, just the actual piece where the chip is. Scrape off some of the green insulator and solder wires directly to it. Also, some NOACs can have a controller wired directly to them, no glop-top board needed. The pinouts are in a thread by G-Force somewhere hereâ€¦

Edit: I guess this isn't what you meant, disregard this post

this is what i'll prolly try with mine. I totally f'd my superjoy board up a while ago, might be worth a shot with this method to try and get it working again.

bioniclebert · Post by **bioniclebert** » Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:39 am

gannon wrote:they're all gloptop, the closest you could get is to rip the chip out of a tristar like Kevin Horton did..
In anycase, a superjoy III is way smaller than what someone could make by hand.

not to forget that kevin is very good at doing that. If this Is your first one, dont even bother on how good you can make it. As long as you can, then do it. After that, find ways to improve on your old design, possibly with something more complicated.
As far as I know, kevin horton is the only one to use that chip rather than a power player system.It is a much harder way to make it. Im not shure but I am wondering wether the Glop top is closer to the NES, or the actual tristar is. Ive only worked with the power player, and you can tell of some of the sound differences between it and the actual NES.
What I mean is, what remake can produce sound and video closest to the actual NES?