My A.D.D and Marijuana

[ValiantVenality]

Hello there. I know this is a very shady subject, but I feel its right under the right circumstances. Heres what I have to say. I have A.D.D. I took a test and the doctor said that I have it. So she put me on Concerta 16mg. I got a months supply of it. I took one every morning for 3 weeks. When I took it, I noticed no difference in my attention at all. I was still unable to focus, and I was definitely "spacing out" a bit. So we went to my doctor and she upped the dose to 32mg. First day. Noticed a little difference. Next day I took it, at around lunch time I wasn't feeling well. Then the day went on, and I honeslty felt the worst I have ever felt EVER. It's like I was depressed or something. My entire body just felt horrible, and my mind just felt like blah. Its not like I wanted to kill myself, but I just wanted to crawl in a corner and not talk to anybody.

THEN, I started to experiment with Marijuana. When I use it, I feel very relaxed, and feel focused. Here's my true story example on this. My friends and I decided to go smoke in the morning. Then we got to school about 10 minutes late, and everything was going smooth. I get to my Spainish I class and my teacher says that we have a 100 question test. (It was testing week at the time, so he just gave us a practice Spainish test, that still counted for some reason.) After he gives me the test, I race to my desk and start the quiz. When I was taking it, it was very strange because I knew a lot of it. I was getting a D at the time, so I wasn't so hot at the subject. I focused on each question, breaking the sentences apart, and decyphering what each word meant, So I finish the test. Then we have to grade it, so we all switched papers so we dont cheat. I get my test back. I got 89/100 problems correct. The highest grade I have EVER gotten on a test in that class. I was amazed. Then as the day went on, I still felt focused, and I didn't want to tap my pencil, or shake my foot on the ground. I do that very often during class.

So what do you guys think? Do you think this is an alternative to taking DANGEROUS A.D.D pills? My brother goes to UCLA and he too has A.D.D. He has a friend who is going to become a doctor. They were talking about the medication, and his friend said that taking pills is very, VERY bad for you. He says that many people, including teens, die every year from taking A.D.D medication. Not 1 person has died from smoking marijuana. What do you guys think?

VV

[RockNRoll!]

It's the best cure for jillions of problems and also just a great way to enjoy yourself. The fact that it's illegal really shows you how incompetent and corrupt our government is.

[weaponepsilon]

Not sure. I have ADHD, so I know a lot about what you mean. I got very mild grades in school due to lack of concentration/interest.

I have never taken medication. My daughter now exhibits the very same symptoms. I know all kids are like that but my family says that she is exactly like I was when I was her age.

There is a possibility that may make it seem like you are more focused. MOst people with our symptoms tend to have opposing effects that would normally be expected. IE. Caffeine makes us sleepy. It is curious though. I have never done any illicit substances. I smoked a cigaratte once and it made my heart race and alcohol makes me happy. I am old enough so no back talkers. My friends (the bad kind) used to do meth and they tried to explain what it was like. I determined my track record with chemicals that it would probably make me homicidal.

As far as the whole "no one has ever died" or harmed or whatever thing is concerned is urban legend. A lot of people who've been wasted on simple weed have forgotten basic things and caused greater damage. Yeah. You didn't kill anyone by smoking marijuana. But the fact that you forgot that you were cooking something and caught your apartment complex on fire killing several is still of consequence.

[project_failure]

Smoking weed has never killed anyone in the sense of poisoning. To overdose on THC you would have to smoke somewhere around 1/3 your body weight. Just like drinking you have to be responsible while on a drug.

Its all good fun but be careful. Addiction is way different then it is depicted, believe me.

I have many good friends on this forum, one of which knows the extent of my abuse problems. Be careful man.

I have a new policy on drugs and friends. I never recommend them, I won't get it for them, but if they obtain them on their own I won't stop them.

They say weed and alcohol are gateway drugs but I don't believe that. They weren't even my first. I tried those later.

Be careful, unlike what they say weed does have withdrawals. You feel even more demotivated, fatigued, and possibly depressed. It's not too harmful, but don't medicate yourself with it. Now if your back hurts and you need to get some sleep, I don't see a problem smoking. But if you are planning to use it to help you concentrate, deal with depression, or anything frequently you will develop a problem. I have a friend who has been smoking since he was about 13. The amount of weed It takes to get me stoned won't even faze him. If he doesn't smoke he is miserable. So be careful.

Sorry to rant

[lifeisbetterwithketchup]

Responsible weed is harmless (relatively speaking). I don't do it, I would never recommend it, it's illegal (for all the wrong reasons, but that's a completely different story), but I will tolerate it. However, be careful. Weed is not physically addicting, but anything can become psychologically addicting. If you bring it into your routine permanently, it will cause trouble. The key (as with anything dangerous, like cars) is to be responsible. Don't let it take over your life. Don't make a compulsory habit of it. And don't let it destroy you financially (I don't have any numbers for you, but that stuff ain't cheap.). It sounds like it is your intention to do it habitually. Think before you lock yourself into the cycle. Do it; don't do it; but know what you're getting yourself into. The mentality of "well nobody's ever died from weed" will get you nowhere good.

[Negative_Creep]

If you know what your messing with, you'll be fine.

All I can say is, one time I didn't (not with weed though), and that was a long day... a very long day.

[blaze3927]

your right it is illegal, for certain reasons. Just like in Aus, guns are illegal, similar reasons. our governing body and general population is not ready to accept the consequences of irresponsible use of marijuana and firearms.
my suggestion:
use responsively, and know where its coming from

[AfroLH]

Yeah dude.
Make sure you can trust the person you get it from.

If you don't know the dude they may put stuff like rat poison in that.
That is when it starts to kill people.

[XCVG]

Weed is even less harmful then cigarettes, UNLESS it is laced, which is more and more common. Not really so where I live, becasue there's lots of hippies here (weed's not a drug, it's nature man). A lot of people in my class (grade have tried pot at least once. I know one guy who used to be on weed. He said his grades went down when he did it and back up after he quit. Buyer beware, weed can be laced and it's bred to be stronger than before.

I've never done drugs, never smoked (a bit of secondhand tho) and I can't stand the taste of alcohol. That's probably all going to change over the next few years.

As for ADD and marijuana, I don't think you should take meds at all, but I don't know what it really is like to have it. Up here they use the term Autism but it's really pretty much the same thing.

[Triton]

Weed is even less harmful then cigarettes, UNLESS it is laced, which is more and more common.

any dealer with half a brain isnt going to sell you laced weed in place of regular weed. it wouldnt make sense financially to do so.

So she put me on Concerta 16mg. I got a months supply of it. I took one every morning for 3 weeks. When I took it, I noticed no difference in my attention at all. I was still unable to focus, and I was definitely "spacing out" a bit. So we went to my doctor and she upped the dose to 32mg. First day. Noticed a little difference. Next day I took it, at around lunch time I wasn't feeling well. Then the day went on, and I honeslty felt the worst I have ever felt EVER. It's like I was depressed or something. My entire body just felt horrible, and my mind just felt like blah. Its not like I wanted to kill myself, but I just wanted to crawl in a corner and not talk to anybody.

I have ADD as well and concerta is by FAR the WORST ADD medication in terms of side effects and effectiveness in my opinion. go to your doctor and ask to get put on adderall XR 15 or 20mg. and also ask for a low dose perscription of muscle relaxers to counter the muscle tension that it can cause.

as to ADD meds being DANGEROUS? unless your being stupid and abusing them they are fairly safe but as with all stimulant medications there is risk for dependance. with adderall you can take magnesium citrate suppliments and it will help prevent tolerance to the drug

As for ADD and marijuana, I don't think you should take meds at all, but I don't know what it really is like to have it. Up here they use the term Autism but it's really pretty much the same thing.

ADD and autism are not even remotely related and personally if i didnt have to take meds to be a functional productive person i wouldnt because i dont like the way they make me feel

[bicostp]

Weed is even less harmful then cigarettes

That is, unless you or someone you live with smokes cigarettes. The particulates from both settle in different parts of the lungs, giving you a near 100% chance of developing lung cancer. (That's what happened to George Harrison.)

[Taiben]

Smoking isnt a healthy way to ingest anything. If you wanna do the good ole MJ can you talk to your doc about it? I thoght medical MJ was cool in California. But you are really uninformed on some things. You been on one drug for ADD. Theyres hundreds out there. Not all are as bad and when you say they all are after trying one you sound kinda paranoid.

Still at least get yourself off that one. If you been taking it for three weeks and upping the dose makes you feel that bad its not the one for you.

[Triton]

That is, unless you or someone you live with smokes cigarettes. The particulates from both settle in different parts of the lungs, giving you a near 100% chance of developing lung cancer.

BS. there have been several studies that have shown that THC and other substances found in marijuana to have anti-carcinogenic properties and might be a viable treatment for some types of cancer. inhaling ANY kind of burning plant substance isnt healthy, thats a given but pot is MUCH, MUCH less harmful to your body than tobacco.

The effects of tobacco and cannabis smoking differ, however, as they affect different parts of the respiratory tract: whereas tobacco tends to penetrate to the smaller, peripheral passageways of the lungs, cannabis tends to concentrate on the larger, central passageways. One consequence of this is that cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not appear to cause emphysema, though this claim is disputed. A 2002 report by the British Lung Foundation estimated that three to four cannabis cigarettes a day were associated with the same amount of damage to the lungs as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day. Unlike tobacco, regular cannabis use does not appear to cause chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of ... #Smoking_2

[palmertech]

If I need to focus for a big push, I use this: http://www.gatorade.com/Products/tiger. ... ucts/tiger" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hardcore? No. Placebo effect? Maybe. But hey, it works for me for tests and stuff.

Don't do weed.

[Skyone]

100% drug-free here. in b4 CAFFEINE, IBUPROFEN, etc. I don't use drugs.

I've found anything that drugs can give me, I can simulate without them.