L64 Help

nhquads07 · Post by **nhquads07** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:35 pm

So, I loved the L64, but while in need for some cash I sold it to Sony Portbleizer. Unfortunately upon its arrival, he said it could charge, turn on with sound, but no video was coming up. As I do not have the L64, I can not send pictures, but is there any advice anyone could give to Sony Portableizer so he can open it up and fix it himself so he doesn't have to ship it back to me? Thank you so much.

SonyPortableizer · Post by **SonyPortableizer** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:47 pm

I hate to say it but Im committed to sending it back,
Many people wanted it so you should have no problem there.
And I will not open this(Yes sounds Childish)I have my reasons and will not do so

nhquads07 · Post by **nhquads07** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:49 pm

Ok, I'm very sorry you will not do so and I will mail the money out Thursday.

bacteria · Post by **bacteria** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:29 am

This is precisely the issue with selling portables. There is never any guarantee how long they work for before needing repairs. This is why I am of the mind to just sell cases (if I am able to make good ones reliably) so others can make their own systems to put inside them; case making is the hard part after all (hence why people like the L64, the insides are standard fare, it's the case people like). Might be your answer, SonyPortableizer; consider buying one of my cases when I make them!

nhquads07 - might mean you need to speak to marshallh about fixing it for you (he made it I believe).

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:27 am

bacteria wrote:This is precisely the issue with selling portables. There is never any guarantee how long they work for before needing repairs.

I have had only one portable come back to me and it was cause the owner dropped it.

If you don't cheap out on parts (us high quality voltage regulators, capacitors, tacts, ect...) your portable should last a lifetime.

Build to last not for price.

bacteria · Post by **bacteria** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:09 am

Rekarp - I know what you mean, I build my systems strong and secure so shouldn't fail, however things can always go wrong, or in transit!

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:16 pm

bacteria wrote:Rekarp - I know what you mean, I build my systems strong and secure so shouldn't fail, however things can always go wrong, or in transit!

Especially while working with vintage electronics.

Post by **marshallh** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:19 pm

The build quality when it left my hands two years ago was not bad by portable standards. I don't think people realize the physical damage that can happen in shipping. It's also been through at least 3-4 people since then and I have no idea what has happened to it since then.

The bigger the portable, the more careful you have to be with it. I used my own L64 for several months heavily with no problems. It worked fine after I dropped it except that an LED was dying in the backlight, so I dismantled it.

We've been spoiled by mass-produced consumer electronics that have complex injection-molded parts with support ribbing built in. That's one reason I avoid using hot glue for anything I can anymore, it's great for temporary stuff, but try putting your portable out in the sun on your dashboard and watch it fall apart. Epoxy, liquid ABS, and screws are the way to go.

bacteria · Post by **bacteria** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:36 pm

marshallh - Very good point you make about hot glue in a system left in a car on a hot day. Hadn't thought of that before. My portables are left at home or taken to work at nights, so really hot days are not a problem; anyway, I live in the UK not California so really hot days are not usual!

nhquads07 · Post by **nhquads07** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:38 pm

Ok, I don't want to go through the logistics of the whole thing, but basically he payed for the L64, I sent him videos of it working, and I sent him videos of it working. He payed me a certain amount of cash and mailed some other items for it. Now he is adamant that it was broken to begin with (because even though I tried to check with him a couple of times to be sure that he got the videos with no answer) and wants me to pay him back. Offering him to ship the items he traded me back, along with items valuing greater than that which he payed me, but he will only take cash. He even wants me to pay him for the items he traded me without any hopes of returning them back. As it was working, and I can prove it with the videos I sent, when it left my hands, am I truly obligated to pay him back for the item? Somebody please help me out.

SonyPortableizer · Post by **SonyPortableizer** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:44 pm

Well I had no idea on that value on those legos there was allmost 20 sets, 4 were big ones, others were medium
And you did a bad shipping job so why should I have to pay fot it? when you said there would be bubble wrap and ship fine
I didnt need videos because you swore it worked
-So stop bringing them up

So if you bought a new car, and in shipping the engine broke on your beautiful custom car. And you wanted the manufacturer to repay for the damages on a car that worked when it was shipped out and was broken because of poor packaging, would you want them to pay for to fix it, or return it?

I offered for you to pay me for the legos because you sounded so happy when I said I had so many.
At this point I just want my $250 back, and the legos.
Ill want pay pal for the money just in case

palmertech · Post by **palmertech** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:35 pm

Same thing has happened to me. Custom N64 themed DS, sent it out after a very publicized ebay auction, the guy demands a refund and says the screen is broken.

Turns out that there was some dust in the edge of the screen. Wiped it away, it was fine.

I still have it, dont feel like doing the tech blog publicity blitz again. With the same item, especially.

Sony, please, try and fix it yourself. If he gives you permission, then go for it! Not like you can break it...

It is probably a simple issue.

bacteria · Post by **bacteria** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:49 am

anotherperson wrote:
bacteria wrote:I build my systems strong and secure so shouldn't fail, however things can always go wrong, or in transit!
Can't resist calling you out on that. I thought you came up with the "hot glue as case filler" idea too

Valid points, I take it on the chin. The hot glue was to add sides as a cosmetic feature rather than for strength. Now, I would use clay instead for this. Better result and far smoother; however I didn't think of this at the time.

Agreed, in my Mini project I used hot glue to secure the side of the casing to the perspex (and also other glue). Now I would use Poly-Weld as that welds and not bonds plastic. The battery compartment in the Mini was held in place by hot glue, however it rests directly on top of the PSone screen mobo so it really rigid.

We all learn by experience and experimentation (my skills come on massively with each project I do); I will be using clay for some internal structures in my projects now (eg posts for components to rest on) and secured to plastic with strong glue; and Poly-Weld for anything plastic to plastic; reserving hot glue for more removable components and also fixing wiring in place.

My plan is to redesign the Mini project anyway into the same mold as I am getting from my vacuum forming. I just need to rip out all the electronics and re-house it; in due course. Standardization!

ShockSlayer · Post by **ShockSlayer** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:07 pm

Hahahahahahaha! Oh bacteria, how much hotglue did you use? A gallon you say?

*gets slapped in face* *cries*

SS

bacteria · Post by **bacteria** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:42 pm

About two sticks as I recall. You still hold the record though SS! Anyway, I will use it more liberally now!