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Seeing as theres so much musical activity here at the moment i thought id get in on this action too :lol:

http://www.purevolume.com/Captain_Shout

Tell me what you think. I play everything in those tracks except for drums which is either drum machine i programmed or my friend rob on drums.

Also does anyone think its worth starting a general purpose music thread on the lines of the Youtube or Photo one? No point unless theres enough support i guess.
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I'm game. I mean, the way things are going, I'm going to be struggling with different recording techniques over the course of the next month.

I googled the best way to record at home, and apart from drums, a uni-directional microphone was used for everything else. However, that went to a recording machine, not a computer. I'm not quite sure if I should invest in one. You know, something that'll just record the mic with good quality. Any suggestions? Computers seem to suck.
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Kurt_ wrote:I'm game. I mean, the way things are going, I'm going to be struggling with different recording techniques over the course of the next month.

I googled the best way to record at home, and apart from drums, a uni-directional microphone was used for everything else. However, that went to a recording machine, not a computer. I'm not quite sure if I should invest in one. You know, something that'll just record the mic with good quality. Any suggestions? Computers seem to suck.
Might as well pick up a mac of some sorts. They all have high quality compression Mics built in, and EXTREMELY high quality line in ports things. :roll:
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I'm also fixing up some recording stuff, until I get my good desktop back from my friend's (in our studio) to record some little stuff. I would probably post in such a topic. I'm going to try and get relatively good recordings - If I succeed, I'll try and give you some tips.
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I might do something. that is all for now.
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Kurt_ wrote:I'm game. I mean, the way things are going, I'm going to be struggling with different recording techniques over the course of the next month.

I googled the best way to record at home, and apart from drums, a uni-directional microphone was used for everything else. However, that went to a recording machine, not a computer. I'm not quite sure if I should invest in one. You know, something that'll just record the mic with good quality. Any suggestions? Computers seem to suck.
Computers are ok, but i stopped using one ages ago. I use an ADAT 8 track tape machine, they were expensive and top af the range in about 1990 :lol: It just 8 channels in, 8 out, and records on S-VHS tapes. It also has an ADAT light pipe out and in, so you can use it a an analouge to digital interface for a PC and 8 simultaneous in's to a multi track recording programme.

Ebay is your friend, i picked mine up for £30, and recently i just missed out on another two for £40. So some awesome bargins can be found.

However if you're going down that route, you'll need a mixing desk. Nothing fancy, you can pick up something that will suffice for not too much.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_xenyx_502.htm

Something along the lines of that will do if you're only ever going to be recording one thing at once.

The main reason i avoid using just line in on computers is latency, it depends on the quality of your card (mine was crap) but theres a slight delay between what you're hearing and what you're recording, so it can push it out of time slightly.


The other option is to get a USB or firewire interface, cuts out the latency problems and acts as a preamp and EQ for microphones, This is probably the option for you, cheapest to and easiest to get up and running in the short term.

What kinda money would you spend on this kinda thing?
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For top of the line recording, $1000.
For good but decent, $300, 400 if I had to.

1) I want/need the recording to be digital, as it will all be edited in audacity. 8 tracks don't sound too digital to me.

2) A mac, though... got an examples? Would a cheap older mac work, too?

3) Any usb things? I mean, A USB digital recorder, if built good enough, would be great. Exactly what I want.
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Kurt_ wrote:For top of the line recording, $1000.
For good but decent, $300, 400 if I had to.

1) I want/need the recording to be digital, as it will all be edited in audacity. 8 tracks don't sound too digital to me.

2) A mac, though... got an examples? Would a cheap older mac work, too?

3) Any usb things? I mean, A USB digital recorder, if built good enough, would be great. Exactly what I want.
In that case, i suggest a Firewire Desk.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_multimi ... rewire.htm

Alesis do very high quality stuff. I know the Prices are in Euros/Pounds but i dont know any american retailers. But thats about $500 for that, and thats pretty much all you'd need except mics to record with on a computer.

There is cheaper smaller versions of the same things if thats a bit much

http://www.thomann.de/gb/phonic_phhb12f ... _mk_ii.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_multimix_8_firewire.htm

Also buying those gives you the oppertunity to do multi track recording should the need arise, cos if you're into music eventually you're gonna find some more people to play with :wink:
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http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_multimix_8_firewire.htm

Digging that sort of thing. Assuming "Pristine" computer recording quality is 136kB/s or greater. I'll look into it further tomorrow.

Also, I kind of need a new laptop. Mine kinda fried. No internet or firewire anymore. I'm assuming firewire is pretty standard ( on a Lenovo)

Anyone tried something like this? How good was it? I'm willing to give it a shot.


http://www.tweakheadz.com/choosing_a_mi ... tudio.html

Google has lots of information for someone with time to read it all.
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Post by Electric Rain »

You've found yourself a good link there. Tweak's Guide and his forums are extremely useful for any aspect of home recording studios. The site they link to almost exclusively, zZounds, is probably the best place on the net to get gear, too. :wink:
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Kurt_ wrote:http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_multimix_8_firewire.htm

Digging that sort of thing. Assuming "Pristine" computer recording quality is 136kB/s or greater. I'll look into it further tomorrow.

Also, I kind of need a new laptop. Mine kinda fried. No internet or firewire anymore. I'm assuming firewire is pretty standard ( on a Lenovo)

Anyone tried something like this? How good was it? I'm willing to give it a shot.


http://www.tweakheadz.com/choosing_a_mi ... tudio.html

Google has lots of information for someone with time to read it all.
Im currently running a 16 channel Studio Master Session Mix. It was a very nice desk once, but now its very battered and haggered, but thats why i got it for free so i cant complain :lol: It was being thrown out (its really does belong in the bin) so i took it. Works fine apart from theres no knobs on all but 2 faders, channel 1 hums very loudly and the pots all crackle and make deafen squals when turned occasionally :lol:

But i did get it for free, and its a true 16 channel desk as well, as in 16 separate mono channels rather than 8 mono and 4 stereo like a lot of "16 channel" desks, they're not wrong, but essentially thats still only 12 useful channels :wink:
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Well I'll look into one, like I said.

But you never answered the question: How's the quality? Is it tops, kind of okay, or sux? Gimmie a sample!
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Kurt_ wrote:Well I'll look into one, like I said.

But you never answered the question: How's the quality? Is it tops, kind of okay, or sux? Gimmie a sample!
Im confused

The quality of what? What i suggested, or what i use?

if its what i use then check out this http://www.purevolume.com/Captain_Shout

thats been done with my set up apart from captain shout, which was recorded on one microphone in the middle of a room :lol:
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<s>That's weird. There's nothing wrong with his post...</s> :?

Looks like a BBcode issue or something. Remember, you don't have to put URL tags around a plain-text URL, only if you want to apply a link to a string of text, for example like this.


Extreme_Jesus apparently wrote:Im confused

The quality of what? What i suggested, or what i use?

if its what i use then check out this http://www.purevolume.com/cazz117

thats been done with my set up apart from captain shout, which was recorded on one microphone in the middle of a room :lol:
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