Controller...

Eskimo · Post by **Eskimo** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:49 am

Mmmkay, I tried to solder the GC controller to the controller mobo by the pinout on this post, and, although it turned on and everything LOOKED okay, the controller wouldn't actually work, and neither would the actual port until I desoldered the connections.

Anything I'm not considering?

jeroen · Post by **jeroen** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:41 am

you prob wired something wrong. That the port wouldn't work with the other controller wired on is kinda logical. you hooked two controllers to the same port.

Eskimo · Post by **Eskimo** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:45 am

Would they not just work in conjunction rather than cancel each other out?

jeroen · Post by **jeroen** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:46 am

no. (well I could be wrong but i'm fairly sure)

edit: actually i'm 99.9% sure. you'd need to know how the latched controller system works to understand.

Electric Rain · Post by **Electric Rain** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:17 pm

jeroen wrote:no. (well I could be wrong but i'm fairly sure)

edit: actually i'm 99.9% sure. you'd need to know how the latched controller system works to understand.

This is true... the communication between the Gamecube and its controllers is far more complex than one would imagine. There's constantly high-speed, bi-directional data going back and forth through the data line, not to mention the latch signals as jeroen stated. Two controllers on the same port just confuses the cube... badly...

Eskimo · Post by **Eskimo** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:37 pm

Okay, definitely good to know.

Damn, that foils my master plan of circumventing splitting the controller (I won't ask)

One question remains then: how can one have an integrated controller on a portable while leaving the four controller ports (including port 1) fully functional and intact?

Not really important per se, but wherever I can increase functionality without increasing size then I'll be laughing.

Electric Rain · Post by **Electric Rain** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:08 pm

Simple. Add an SPDT switch on the 3.43V line to switch between the player 1 port and the built-in controller. Let us know if you need help with that part. I'm sure one of us will be willing to crap out a quick diagram if you need it.

Eskimo · Post by **Eskimo** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:24 pm

Oooh, please do. Diagrams are fun!

Also, I've just resoldered the controller to the board again with what has to be the best soldering I'll probably ever do...at least tonight...and it's still the same thing. I'm wondering if perhaps the controller itself is fried...

I will admit that the first time I soldered it to the board I was a total noob and misread the diagram, accidentally soldering things backwards...hmmm....

UPDATE: Awesome! I'm not totally useless! I managed to make it work!

Solder skill level up!

UPDATE AGAIN: Lol, broke it again. Desoldering and trying again.

Solder skill level down.

Gamerdude · Post by **Gamerdude** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:17 pm

I tried this on my N64p in progress. I then fried the MOBO on the N64 so I am going to get one from Skyone as soon as I get the money to pay him.