Pcp Rethought

[teraflop122]

Are you also building a PCp, Cennar? You certainly seem interested in the PCp threads, or at least FDSMAN's.

That Intel ITX I was talking about generates very little heat- thus the fanless heatsink; It doesn't weigh all that much; and a device including the mobo and video card (using ribbon cable extender), LCD, and laptop hdd would probably be about 2" x 7.5" x7", batteries included. It's power requirements would most likely be approximately 3760mA per hour (max), meaning 8 C NiMH (5000mAH) batteries would yeild 1 hour 20 minutes, and 8 Alkaline C batteries (~8000mAH) would yeild 2 hours and 10 minutes. Once again, the video card would draw heavily on the batteries- possibly even more so than the motherboard + CPU combined.

Then again, two 6v lantern batteries (62000mAH) would give you 16 hours You could have internal rechargable C batteries, and then an external battery pack for extended play....OR you could make a switch that toggles between the integrated video and the video card, turning on the video card only when you plan to use its abilities (very new games), and leaving it off for other purposes (games from a year or two ago).

[harad]

uhhh... teraflop12.. isn't better to buy a upc? a u50 or u70 is quite very, very nice and cheap it sells @ ~ 1500$

[bicostp]

Add another 500 USD, and you can get this.

Besides, if you're going to need a 12v power source, why not a lawn tractor battery (the kind you can refil with cheap new acid)? or a Power Wheels battery?

Sorry for posting that again, everybody.

[teraflop122]

Lead Acid batteries are generally not allowed on passenger planes, which is why I don't talk about them much. On the other hand, standard 6v lantern batteries are readily available in most convenient stores, and are allowed virtually everywhere.


I have read every thread on this forum partaining to portable computer projects, and the scourge of every one of those threads has been people who so firmly believe in the superiority of laptops in these situations that they throw about incorect statements and examples that don't truly apply.

Sure, FDSMAN could squander 1500-2000 dollars on something he could build personally for 400 bucks, but why do that when building an equivalent model would give you the pride of completing it yourself? Did I mention 400 bucks? None of these current PCp projects will likely top 600 dollars.

My own project will cost only around 250 dollars, and will continue to run long after the most expensive commercially available ultra-portables' batteries run dry.

Laptops and commercial ultra-portables are not PCp's, and PCp's are not laptops or commercial ultra-portables.

BTW: I apologize if I came across a little rudely. Just at least give the PCp's a chance

Please?

Don't the PCp's deserve a chance at life?

[bicostp]

Sure. I actually think the whole pcp thing is a great project, and certainly something to brag about to your friends. I was just saying, by sinking 1500 bucks into a UPS device, you're 3/4 the way to a pocket computer. While I believe a pcp may not be the most practical portable, what with the oqo and laptops, it is a challenging project that is a great personal accomplishment to complete.

I didn't find your post to be pushy or mean at all.

[teraflop122]

PCp's are like Frankenstein monsters. People always want to prevent their creation, but it always turns out good in the end.

...No, wait

Nvm ~_~ Scratch that statement and pretend I said something deep, meaningful, and convincing.

[FDSMAN]

hey terraflop, so what should I use thatis cheaper than the mothrboard I'm using

[cennar]

BAMM!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111


yeah so the thing is here now that you could look at vias or shuttles site for the smallest and cheapest referbished modle you can find... as low as 80 for most mini mobos

[FDSMAN]

yes cennar, but what is also as powerful

[teraflop122]

I never said that your motherboard was too expensive- I was saying that buying one of those tiny u50 or u70 computers for a whoping 1500-2100 dollars would be too expensive.

Otherwise, as I said, this board would give you decent performance without murdering your batteries:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 67983&rd=1
-smallest (estimated size: 7 x 7 x 1.5 inches)
-1st cheapest
-play games released prior to 2004

Here's an idea similar to yours. This motherboard is only 9.6 x 7.5 inches, and supports socket A AMD CPU's, AND it has a GeForce 4 MX video card built right onyo it!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130488
Adding this CPU would give you performance without killing the battery: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103440
-largest (estimated size: 8 x 10 x 2inches)
-most cost effective (2nd most expensive- but just barely so)
-play most games released during 1st half of 2004
*this is probably your best choice, but don't take my word for it!


You could buy one of these, pop in a cheap 2.8Ghz P4 and underclock (as far down as possible): http://www.bwi.com/product/6049
-small, but deep (estimated size: 7 x 7 x 3inches)
-power hungry
-play all games (assuming a decent video card is supply)

This is interesting, but also the priciest option: http://www.bwi.com/product/8009
Get that, pop in a Pentium M, and it has a *mini-AGP* slot- for which you can buy a likkle Radeon M10 (Radeon 9600) that lays flat against the motherboard: http://www.bwi.com/product/8185
-small, but slightly deep (estimated size: 7 x 7 x 2.5 inches)
- 2nd most power hungry
-extremely expensive
-capable of playing anything (but not necessarily on highest detail)

Pretty much a summary of the research I've been doing over the past week for all of this PCp business.