Amazing??? or no....

If you're making a portable you probably need something to watch it on. (Unless you want to guess what's happening in the game, but I wouldn't advise that) Anyway, this forum is your "Hacking a pocket TV/screen" one-stop solution. Share your experiences and knowledge here.

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Amazing??? or no....

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http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-TFT-LCD-for-Car ... 27abfe6209" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Its making my mouth water, but I could be a dumbarse!

Specs
3.5"
<3W
4:3 resolution
1 video input /2AV input auto switch reversing
DC 12V

I'm drooling...and screw audio! Who needs it! Pictures worth a....nevermind.
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Buy one and tell us how it is. :wink:
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WILL DO :) once paypal stops being lazy and receives my funds!
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I've been watching one of these too. I've also been waiting for someone like you to actually buy it so you can tell me if it's worth anything. So... Thanks! :lol:
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0401406499
Okay! The screen finally came! It is SUPER light and VERY small in terms of mobo. Fairly simple circuitry might I add. I will post pics probably tomorrow.

I do have a few simple questions though:

I am pretty sure it is NTSC compatible since the description says it has an auto switch...?

It has 3 wires: red, white, yellow BUT the red one is a male end and the white and yellow are female ends..... :? 0h and the red male end has another plug that goes into it and has two exposed wires for the DC power I assume (see link for pictures)?

The Yellow and White wires are AV correct?

How can I put RGB into this screen or do I need to just magically find it on the board? Are there any indications of where on the board? Or I will settle for S-video if I cannot do RGB.


Thanks for the help guys!
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Red is power. Yellow and white are the 2 video inputs. You'll just have to open it up to see if RGB will work.
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If the red plug is female then it's the power plug. Stick a wall wart in there (make sure the adapter is right polarity, center tip positive)
Yellow is composite video, White is left channel audio.

There's a small chance it can be used with RGB. But since my crystal ball ain't working you'll need to post up the part numbers on all of the chips. Then I'll do some googling and see if it's doable.

If you are able to get a good, clear, high-res picture of the PCB where parts are readable, that would work too.
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The main chip
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Techwell
TW8816
DALB3-GR WOG530001
0933
TAIWAN


6 medium-sized chips
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... ble013.jpg
Winband
25X10AVNIG
0923

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... ble014.jpg
ATMEL716
24C16AN
.SU27 A (yes that "A" is intentional)

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... ble015.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MP158OHS
431346*19
MPS422

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... ble012.jpg
RC4558
texas symbol 98M
AFDEG4

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... ble016.jpg
AMS1117
1.8 0940

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... ble017.jpg
AMS1117
3.3 0925


Small chips - too many to go through all of them
3 SS14 Chips
ton of RP 330 chips
tiny stuff, etc.

Not sure what this 27000 does...
BUT there are also open pin holes!!!Why!?!?!?!

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... d27000.jpg

There is also a variable resistor (for what it's worth).
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marshallh wrote: Yellow is composite video, White is left channel audio.
No audio on this puppy. It is 2 video inputs.
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Whoops I'm retarded. Yes, two video inputs.

TW8816
http://www.synhorn.com/asp_bin/Webedito ... 313959.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Besides that, I see 1.8 and 3.3v regulators, an I2C eeprom, and analog ICs for the backlight power.

The open holes on the PCB is likely a jtag connector used during manufacturing, and the 27.000 crystal is a 27mhz.
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marshallh wrote:Whoops I'm retarded. Yes, two video inputs.

TW8816
http://www.synhorn.com/asp_bin/Webedito ... 313959.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Besides that, I see 1.8 and 3.3v regulators, an I2C eeprom, and analog ICs for the backlight power.

The open holes on the PCB is likely a jtag connector used during manufacturing, and the 27.000 crystal is a 27mhz.
Thank you SO MUCH!

"Software selectable analog inputs allows any of
the following
o Up to 4 composite video
o UP to 3 S-Video
o Up to 2 analog YPbPr and RGB"


I will admit I am not sure how to change it to the 2 analog RGB but I'm an idiot because I can't even get RGB from the gamecube unless I buy a 60 dollar cable :facepalm:

But I will definitely use the S-video, but I am not sure how to hook that up from the screen to the gamecube (I am still reading through the datasheets).
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The chip supports composite video, S-video as inputs, and also 24-bit digital RGB and component. The chip outputs analog RGB but it doesn't support analog RGB input.

The chip has a 8051 MCU inside it that reads a config from an external EEPROM upon boot. You'll need to dump this eeprom and figure out the bytes you change to get it to switch to S-video (in the datasheet, but I have to leave for work)
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Post by sergey »

hi,

i bought the same screen twice, both from same seller.

guess what... the first with the TECHWELL IC is fine, but the image is
too much "sharpened" (looks like Photoshop filter) but otherwise
a nice screen. maybe i need to reprogram the I2C EEPROM or
attach a 12C508 to re-program the sharpness register.

the new batch is a piece of CRAP - i don't recommend it anymore.

COMPARISON: GOOD ON THE LEFT, BAD ON THE RIGHT
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BAD CRAP BATCH (CYAN-BLUE OSD, UNKNOWN SANDED ASIC)
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this seconds one, with sanded ICs and totally different PCB does this:
http://vimeo.com/8350805" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

GOOD BATCH (ORANGE OSD, TECHWELL ASIC)
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so... if you buy the screen, pray you get the TECHWELL powered!

the advantages of the TECHWELL one:
- datasheet of scaler ASIC is available here (there you can see how to attach RGB source,
how to set the registers):
http://rapidshare.com/files/331935059/tw8816_full.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- no thermal problems, works every time even 24h a day, i tried it
- no sanded ICs so no problems to find datasheets
- build quality much better (flex-cable does not cause pressure to TFT panel)
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