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Got to thinking about this since last night.

About a year or so ago I made the large Multi-Platform system, which, let's face it, was quite big, clunky and looked like a cake (as my wife put it).

At that time, the system was made that size to take the larger console boards, after all, I wasn't into chipping up boards and relocating sections at the time. I also used two multi-cart ports from N64's to connect power, audio, video and button presses between the two sections, so in effect, one half of the system was the screen and controls and the other half the console itself. It worked fine, but cumbersome.

In the forum, someone was talking before about clipping on a PSone screen onto unmodded consoles and connecting the two by a serial cable, or whatever. I suggested he might consider using magnets and metal pieces to keep and maintain contact between the units, so as to not have unsightly plugs and wires; also the magnets would help to keep the system held together. Magnets by their nature are conductive after all. As the magnets will be slightly recessed in 2mm perspex, they will not have an electrical impact on the rest of the system (careful placement).

My idea, which I will experiment with now, is to cross the two design concepts together. My existing case top is big enough to take a PSone screen, two speakers, d-pad, 4 button pad and two joysticks; about 21mm thick so everything is held inside and flush. The bottom section is good for up to about 33mm or thereabouts; which is fine to hold a console board, batteries and cart / CD section. This means my existing casing is up to the job; at least in theory.

This got me thinking.

If I were to make the two sections entirely separate, with a bank of magnets around the case perimeter, that would hold the two case sections together; especially if the screen section was slightly recessed and the console section slightly inclined; to stop the two sections sliding apart. The magnets and steel metal (on console section) would communicate the power, audio, video and controls; and also keep the sections together.

This in effect would give a major version 2 upgrade of the Multi-Platform system - much smaller, easier to hold, interchangeable, vacuum formed, colourful and sleek. :D

I therefore intend to do this, now - starting with my TurboGrafx. If successful, I will make an N64 section too for it; then announce the finished project to various sites. Two systems is a good idea (or even three) so people can see the concept working properly. This also means more production time before a release!

The issue with needing extra buttons is solved as such: two joysticks is all you need, if that for consoles, some use d-pad, all use buttons. If a system needs more than four buttons (eg Gamecube, N64) then they can be mounted under the case. If you think about it, shoulder buttons on a console are far easier to use if under the case, otherwise you need to move your fingers about; using the C buttons on an N64 controller is awkward anyway for the same reason, so why not have them under the console anyway? That way, you can press all the buttons without adjusting your grip of the console unit.

Thoery is sound, and I know I can do it; although I will need to experiment to see how viable it is in practice. If I can pull this off, it will be truly awesome! :wink: It will also mean I have a glut of spare PSone screens too! :lol:
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bacteria wrote: This in effect would give a major version 2 upgrade of the Multi-Platform system - much smaller, easier to hold, interchangeable, vacuum formed, colourful and sleek. :D
So, you're making the opposite of your current multi-platform? :lol:
Great idea man! Definitely worth a shot.
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Don't get the magnets too close to important things on the board! :wink:
I am anticipating this; you could really make something awesome!
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64M320N3 wrote:Don't get the magnets too close to important things on the board! :wink:
Actually, magnets are only harmful to magnetic storage media, like hard drives, floppies, tapes... (And of course to CRT screen) but not electronic components in general.
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Well... fine. :lol:
Sorry.
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Thanks guys for the support.

I am planning on making the two sections flat, which when come together stay together, won't slide about at all, but can also be easily detached. I also want the two sections to have a pretty well flat base to connect to each other so as to make the parts easier and more reliable; and fit together so closely that the two case halves interact with each other so as to look joined.

This is the part which needs the thought - magnets will not do this as they will have to be so powerful as to interfere with the system and also be immensely hard to separate; so the magnets will be used to maintain connections.

One obvious solution would be four screws; which might be the solution, but I prefer something I can slide or press instead, but is flat and reliable. I don't want to use cart slots and boards as they stick out a lot.

My idea so far is to slide one onto the other unit, remove from the top; however that has drawbacks. Still thinking of alternatives; although might end up with using four screws in the end as they are reliable, quick to remove and quite discreet - although fully discreet would mean no visible screws at all. I thought of using press-button switches too - press in to release case halves, but they are liable to be too big.

Anyone got ideas for me to ponder, which I may not have thought of?

One downside is that I got a RetroDuo to play my NTSC and PAL SNES and NES games, which might mean I need to make one system with an NTSC screen and one for PAL; although my other option would of course be to hack a PAL SNES board down and rewire it to size needed, which is an option - accurate sound then too!
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Push latches are the best idea. There's some pretty small ones used in model airplanes, look for "hatch latches".

Awesome idea!
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nitro2k01 wrote:
64M320N3 wrote:Don't get the magnets too close to important things on the board! :wink:
Actually, magnets are only harmful to magnetic storage media, like hard drives, floppies, tapes... (And of course to CRT screen) but not electronic components in general.
Well, as long as they aren't moving (in relation to the wires and what-not) since change in flux can change currents. Probably shouldn't be a problem since they should be stationary, though.
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The latch hatches will be far too big.

I have thought of the way to do it now, flat, simple, free and easy.
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grossaffe wrote:
nitro2k01 wrote:
64M320N3 wrote:Don't get the magnets too close to important things on the board! :wink:
Actually, magnets are only harmful to magnetic storage media, like hard drives, floppies, tapes... (And of course to CRT screen) but not electronic components in general.
Well, as long as they aren't moving (in relation to the wires and what-not) since change in flux can change currents. Probably shouldn't be a problem since they should be stationary, though.
Well, it's not like he's going to have it turned on while removing a screen...

I think it's a neat idea that has some promise, bacteria.
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Thanks.

The screen will not contain any batteries so cannot turn on without the console section; when that works, the screen will also work. Provides a safe-guard against shorts, etc.

My idea is to slot the two sections together, press together and slide; the two sections will stay together then until pushed apart. It will also be easy to replicate too for add-on console sections.

This will be an interesting project; mapped it all out in my mind, know I can do it.

I have some of Thursday and Friday for project work, and all next week (I am on holiday, wife can't get the days off, so guess what - lots of project time! :D ). Should give me time to make great progress on this project.
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this seems like a pretty good idea.
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