Ridiculous Idea: Dial Up friendly video host

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Ridiculous Idea: Dial Up friendly video host

Post by Aguiluz »

I know this sounds ridiculous, but can you stream video over a 56K connection (3Kbps)?

At such quality that there is minimal buffering?
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Post by APHawkes »

Technically, yes. The quality, though, will be very bad. Maybe you don't remember RealPlayer 1.0 over dial-up, but it was painful. I remember watching a music video the size of a postage stamp and thinking "Hey, that blob of colors almost looks like Eric Clapton!" which was horrible since it was Madonna. :)

The compression algorithms are much better now, and so you might be able to get a better picture, but it still won't be great. Maybe a matchbook sized video that looks like Sting. :)
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Re: Ridiculous Idea: Dial Up friendly video host

Post by bicostp »

It's going to look TERRIBLE, but yes it may be theoretically possible.

Here's a copy of the latest AVGN trailer, crunched down to a 712k XviD video. It would still need to buffer, and probably take close to 2 minutes to download completely.

Here's an even smaller, crappier version weighing in at 512k, and it would still have to buffer[/url] This would probably take about a minute 20.

And finally, a 285k version. It looks like garbage. A 3 kilobytes/sec it would take over a minute to download this 42 second video clip. At 7k/sec it would just about play in real time. (But why would you want to?!) Video: Xvid @ 96x64 at 5k/sec. Audio bitrate: 8k/sec mono.

Here's the calculator I used:
http://price.ledtronics.com/dlcalc.asp
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Post by grahf »

Divx/Xvid is terrible at those bitrates, but newer codecs like h.264/x264 are pretty watchable at low bitrate. They are really scalable.
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These are one of those "because I can things." XD
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Post by zzattack »

in an optimal case, 56k can reach nearly 6.5kB/s so with minimal buffering the 7kB/s stream might be watched
though i would really recommend getting rid of the 56k crap a soon as you can!
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