7805 Thermal Runaway?

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7805 Thermal Runaway?

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Is this possible? I ran my NES from a 7805 at 10v for about ten minutes with a small heatsink, and it got so hot it nearly burned my finger! Is this normal? If not, would some thermal paste help?
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Post by Aguiluz »

Grab a bigger heatsink. :P

I have a 7805 running a PS2. The 7805 craps up because it was so hot, even on my biggest heatsink.
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Post by Jongamer »

It should be fine, 7805s are hard to kill with just heat, as long as your not pushing its limits or getting anywhere near it, which is 30v input, I think you should be fine

Hell I think I ran MY NES from a 15V power supply with no problems at all.
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Easiest solution is to just stop touching it
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Valium wrote:Easiest solution is to just stop touching it
Yeah that would be a wise decision.
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Post by Sharp Sapphire »

Valium wrote:Easiest solution is to just stop touching it
Its so hard to resist! You don't know if its gonna burn you or not... can't resist the temptation. :lol:
Things I need to purchase for my NES Laptop:
1X PSone screen
6X 1.2v 3500mAh sub-C's
1X 1/8'' to RCA stereo Adapater
1X Radioshack repair kit

..yeaaaaah...
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Post by kasar »

Valium wrote:Easiest solution is to just stop touching it
lol

do 7812´s have similar heating problems? I supose it will, But I haven´t mine yet for make the finger test :lol:
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Post by timmeh87 »

The amount of heat can be directly calculated.

(Input voltage - Output voltage ) * current = heat (watts)

No, you cant just let it get hot, it says so right in the datasheet. You need an appropriate heatsink. Generally these things have circuits in them that will shut things down if it gets too hot. If you cant hold your finger on it for more than half a second, then its probably too hot.
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Post by Skyone »

God this thread is ridiculous. :lol:

Either get a new regulator rated for higher power, get a bigger heatsink (I don't really suggest this, it'd be ignoring the problem in a way), or enjoy a dead 7805. :P
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Put it in a bucket of corn oil or some liquid that wont fry electronics!
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Post by timmeh87 »

I dont think you can really get one rated for "higher power", you are physically limited by the size and shape of that little package they are in.

Heat sinking your 78xx is often necessary, it says so right in the datasheet.
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timmeh87 wrote:I dont think you can really get one rated for "higher power", you are physically limited by the size and shape of that little package they are in.

Heat sinking your 78xx is often necessary, it says so right in the datasheet.
Well on my 7808, I run it with no heat sink at all from 10v, and is tucked away inside the Genesis wall wart, so nearly no air is cooling it, Guess what, it has been running 24/7 for a good 3-4 months powering my Linksys switch (Yeah I lost the power cable to it, and no power supply I could find would fit it, I so I just used a Spare 7808 and Genesis power supply.
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Jongamer wrote:
timmeh87 wrote:I dont think you can really get one rated for "higher power", you are physically limited by the size and shape of that little package they are in.

Heat sinking your 78xx is often necessary, it says so right in the datasheet.
Well on my 7808, I run it with no heat sink at all from 10v, and is tucked away inside the Genesis wall wart, so nearly no air is cooling it, Guess what, it has been running 24/7 for a good 3-4 months powering my Linksys switch (Yeah I lost the power cable to it, and no power supply I could find would fit it, I so I just used a Spare 7808 and Genesis power supply.
7808 =/= 7805
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Post by timmeh87 »

Yeah this thread IS pretty ridiculous.

Sometimes regulators get hot. If it gets too hot it needs a heatsink. If it dosent then thats ok too.

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Post by Mario »

This thread IS ridiculous. :roll:

I'm using the one that was in the NES's old RF box. And I'll get a bigger heatsink for it. That should be fine, right?
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