Need help finding a NES clone...

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:39 pm

What is the best small nes clone that
1) Plays american NES games normally and
2) Doesn't screw up the audio like in http://youtube.com/watch?v=CYv8USm7dbU&feature=related ?

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:37 pm

I used the Yobo FC game console.

The sound isn't that bad.

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:06 pm

but, does the Yobo FC exhibit that same sound innacuracy as shown in the video?

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:49 am

I don't think it is as bad.

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:11 pm

It's not really possible to be "very bad, sorta bad, almost good"; it's either yes or no. Two of the possible three square waveforms are swapped in every NES clone I've ever seen.

Here, I whipped up a few simplified versions of common NES songs to demonstrate the difference.

Proper NES:
Yoshi's Cookie C
Tetris Ending

A bad famiclone:
Yoshi's Cookie C
Tetris Ending

This isn't a matter of whether or not anyone thinks it sounds "good", but more if it's "accurate".

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:48 pm

Well I feel like this thread is going nowhere.

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:14 pm

...Do you? I just gave a clear example of what I'm talking about. I guess I'm to assume there is no good famiclone that has good sound. This also kinda proves that they are all based on the same core...

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:45 pm

...As someone that is really smart on this forum said:

Emulation is not accurate

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:45 pm

...Yes, but for them all to have the same innacuracy? Moreso, swapping those two voices is pretty hard to do by accident; I'm pretty sure this doesn't also count as emulation; rather, it's an innacurate clone.

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:33 pm

No NOAC is perfect to my knowledge.

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:43 pm

Hmm; it's odd that the most widespread problem with NOAC's is the sound, which is one of the easiest things to correctly emulate or replicate.

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:51 pm

Then why don't you crack one open and fix it?

Kyo · Post by **Kyo** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:15 am

because it's in the chip, but if one was able to produce these chips, it would be extremely easy.

do I win?

Sharp Sapphire · Post by **Sharp Sapphire** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:09 am

Kyo wrote:because it's in the chip, but if one was able to produce these chips, it would be extremely easy.

do I win?

Yes you do!

Kyo - 1
Bibin - 0

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:53 pm

Sharp Sapphire wrote:Then why don't you crack one open and fix it?

I said it's easy to reproduce ths sound, not add it in later.