Nope. Melee was rated T.johnbjuice wrote:Just want to say - anyone who uses the "kiddy" argument against the Wii is highly immature themselves. Just because Nintendo's titles aren't as violent or M-Rated doesn't mean that they're bad. Super Smash Bros. Melee was the selling point of the Gamecube, but it was rated E. And many of these types of titles (FPS, M-Rated, ect.) tend to be released on the PC more than the E-Rated goodies (Example - GTA).
My Opinion (Wii and 360 Related)
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OK, here's my take on the whole next-gen war. I am not a fanboy of any system. I just thought i'd get that out there.
I'll start out with the Wii. I have to admit, when I first saw the Wii announced, I was excited. From what they were showing, although clearly not as powerful as the 360 and the PS3, looked very user-friendly and innovative. However, now that it has come out, and I have purchased it, so far I have been dissappointed by the titles coming out for it. Don't get me wrong, the Wii does sport a few amazing games (Zelda: TP, Wario Ware Smooth Moves) and a few amazing looking not yet released games (Metroid Prime, SSB, and Super Mario Galaxies), which are all first-party titles. This is what has always been a problem for Nintendo. The only good games that come out are first-party; albeit there are a few exceptions. What is it with Nintendo and third-party developers? Why can't they come out with a decent game? This is what really disappoints me with Nintendo. As for the system itself, I would say that it is really only fun in a group. I have to say, playing WarioWare: Smooth Moves alone, while madly flapping your arms and doing crunches gets old fast.
Now on to the 360. I think Microsoft, so far, has done a very good job with the 360. It's Xbox LIVE capabilities are amazing, graphics are amazing, controllers are comfortable (unlike PS3's SixAxxis, but I'll get into that later), and although there has been a lot of crap games, there has also been a lot of very good games. There has been a few mistakes *cough* Core Model *cough*. Like as Ben said, no WiFi built in this day and age is truly rediculous. I have recently decided to get the 360, but I will be waiting until the Elite model is released so I can get the cheaper Premium model (I have no use for a 120 GB HDD since I'll only be saving games) But really, the titles for the 360 is what makes me want it. Gears of War has really changed the way people look at shooters (just like Goldeneye did on the N64), along with many other great titles (Oblivion, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Lost Planet, to name a few). Games that are coming out like Resident Evil 5 and Clive Barker's Jericho (being the Horror nut that I am) are what is really causing me to buy the system.
As for the PS3, I have one thing to say. Sony, stop BS'ing us, and give us what you say you are going to give us! By saying the PS3 is 3 times as powerful as the 360 is complete crap. Sure, the system can output 1080p natively, but that doesn't mean anything when no developer wants to go through the hassle of coding for it. The 360 was never really designed for 1080p, it can do it yes, but considering that there is only a couple of games that have it, it doesn't matter. Also, since TV's that can display 1080p are generally really expensive (although this shouldn't be a problem if you can afford a PS3 as well as forking out 100 bucks for the HDMI cables). For now, all I can see that is worth buying a PS3 for is for a cheap blu-ray player. Even when the PS2 first came out, many people bought it as a cheap DVD player. But even then, wait a couple of years and blu-ray (and HD-DVD) players will become affordable, and the PS3 will once again be worthless. (Sorry if I sound anti-sony here, but I am.) Also, whats with the controller? Why is the controller a smaller, less comfortable version of the already uncomfortable PS1 and PS2 controllers? Even the stupid boomerang controllers would be better! (OK, I take that back, but you know what I'm getting at) Is it just me, or is bending your thumbs inward to maneuver the analog sticks extremely uncomfortable to anybody else?
Anyways, thats my take on the subject. Forgive me if I sound ultra anti-sony, but thats just the way I see Sony. They're all talk and no walk.
I'm tired now, so I'll stop here.
I'll start out with the Wii. I have to admit, when I first saw the Wii announced, I was excited. From what they were showing, although clearly not as powerful as the 360 and the PS3, looked very user-friendly and innovative. However, now that it has come out, and I have purchased it, so far I have been dissappointed by the titles coming out for it. Don't get me wrong, the Wii does sport a few amazing games (Zelda: TP, Wario Ware Smooth Moves) and a few amazing looking not yet released games (Metroid Prime, SSB, and Super Mario Galaxies), which are all first-party titles. This is what has always been a problem for Nintendo. The only good games that come out are first-party; albeit there are a few exceptions. What is it with Nintendo and third-party developers? Why can't they come out with a decent game? This is what really disappoints me with Nintendo. As for the system itself, I would say that it is really only fun in a group. I have to say, playing WarioWare: Smooth Moves alone, while madly flapping your arms and doing crunches gets old fast.
Now on to the 360. I think Microsoft, so far, has done a very good job with the 360. It's Xbox LIVE capabilities are amazing, graphics are amazing, controllers are comfortable (unlike PS3's SixAxxis, but I'll get into that later), and although there has been a lot of crap games, there has also been a lot of very good games. There has been a few mistakes *cough* Core Model *cough*. Like as Ben said, no WiFi built in this day and age is truly rediculous. I have recently decided to get the 360, but I will be waiting until the Elite model is released so I can get the cheaper Premium model (I have no use for a 120 GB HDD since I'll only be saving games) But really, the titles for the 360 is what makes me want it. Gears of War has really changed the way people look at shooters (just like Goldeneye did on the N64), along with many other great titles (Oblivion, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Lost Planet, to name a few). Games that are coming out like Resident Evil 5 and Clive Barker's Jericho (being the Horror nut that I am) are what is really causing me to buy the system.
As for the PS3, I have one thing to say. Sony, stop BS'ing us, and give us what you say you are going to give us! By saying the PS3 is 3 times as powerful as the 360 is complete crap. Sure, the system can output 1080p natively, but that doesn't mean anything when no developer wants to go through the hassle of coding for it. The 360 was never really designed for 1080p, it can do it yes, but considering that there is only a couple of games that have it, it doesn't matter. Also, since TV's that can display 1080p are generally really expensive (although this shouldn't be a problem if you can afford a PS3 as well as forking out 100 bucks for the HDMI cables). For now, all I can see that is worth buying a PS3 for is for a cheap blu-ray player. Even when the PS2 first came out, many people bought it as a cheap DVD player. But even then, wait a couple of years and blu-ray (and HD-DVD) players will become affordable, and the PS3 will once again be worthless. (Sorry if I sound anti-sony here, but I am.) Also, whats with the controller? Why is the controller a smaller, less comfortable version of the already uncomfortable PS1 and PS2 controllers? Even the stupid boomerang controllers would be better! (OK, I take that back, but you know what I'm getting at) Is it just me, or is bending your thumbs inward to maneuver the analog sticks extremely uncomfortable to anybody else?
Anyways, thats my take on the subject. Forgive me if I sound ultra anti-sony, but thats just the way I see Sony. They're all talk and no walk.
I'm tired now, so I'll stop here.
That's exactly how I see it khaag, but as a fan of a more kid-friendly game base, I'm just waiting to see has the most variety of games to declare the winner. Of course for me at the moment, the winner of software is the Wii only because it has a lot of games I could play with the family, but lacks good 3rd party games I can play by myself (Trauma Center was great like that).
I'm surprisingly liking the way the 360 is churning out to be, but the range of software is again limited. The only game I recall that caught my attention for over a minute was Viva Piñata, and maybe even Table Tennis. Although I like the occasional shooter (Halo), Gears of War lost my interest a few hours after play due to it's imitation of CS multiplay (1-life games).
The PS3--
That's how I think of the game systems so far, but I think we'll have to wait until the game systems get a bit more software running until we can finally decide!
I'm surprisingly liking the way the 360 is churning out to be, but the range of software is again limited. The only game I recall that caught my attention for over a minute was Viva Piñata, and maybe even Table Tennis. Although I like the occasional shooter (Halo), Gears of War lost my interest a few hours after play due to it's imitation of CS multiplay (1-life games).
The PS3--
That's how I think of the game systems so far, but I think we'll have to wait until the game systems get a bit more software running until we can finally decide!
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Well accually I have been seeing really decent looking 3rd party games that are acually starting to come out for the Wii.Skyone wrote:That's exactly how I see it khaag, but as a fan of a more kid-friendly game base, I'm just waiting to see has the most variety of games to declare the winner. Of course for me at the moment, the winner of software is the Wii only because it has a lot of games I could play with the family, but lacks good 3rd party games I can play by myself (Trauma Center was great like that).
I'm surprisingly liking the way the 360 is churning out to be, but the range of software is again limited. The only game I recall that caught my attention for over a minute was Viva Piñata, and maybe even Table Tennis. Although I like the occasional shooter (Halo), Gears of War lost my interest a few hours after play due to it's imitation of CS multiplay (1-life games).
The PS3--
That's how I think of the game systems so far, but I think we'll have to wait until the game systems get a bit more software running until we can finally decide!
http://wii.ign.com/articles/773/773509p2.html
Godfather:Black Hand Edition, has to be the on of the Highest rated 3rd party game so far for the Wii, with an 8.0, this is definitly a game Im going to get for my Wii (That is once I find a god damn wii, with all the Friggin' Ebay Sellers buying them all up) I loved the Xbox Version to this game, and with the Wii Controls, just makes it all the better.
And Elibits, I've heard mixed Reveiws on this game, but IGN thinks its a great game, they gave it a 8.3. Also 3rd party.
I think 3rd party Developers will finally pick up the pace, and release more titles like these.
And why no online games for the Wii yet? Are people too scared to make em, or is nintendo not letting them until they come out with a few online games like they did with the DS.
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Nice try. Here's a list of great 360 exclusives. If you like the Wii that's great, just don't go making silly statements like the above.johnbjuice wrote:I HIGHLY disagree with the "no-games" crap about the Wii. I do agree that the Wii definitely does not have very many FPS's or M-Rated titles, but is that what makes a good game. Here's a short list of good Wii-exclusive titles. (And I won't even list Wii Sports/Play!)
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Red Steel
Warioware: Smooth Moves
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Elebits (Sounds stupid but is AWESOME)
Excite Truck
More that I can't think of right now...
Plus they've got Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy coming. The number of exclusive titles is much higher than either of the competing systems.!
Gears of War
Viva Pinata
Table Tennis (Third Party)
Dead Rising (Third Party)
Lost Planet (Third Party)
Project Gotham Racing 3
Crackdown
Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero
Oh and these big hitters are in the pipeline for release in the future.
Forza Motorsport 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
To say that the Wii is leading the charge in good exclusives is a tad misleading I must say. Ahead of the PS3? Yes. Ahead of the 360? Not so much.
Out of the games you listed the only one I can say I even have the slightest itch to play is Trauma Center. I played Zelda and was not impressed, but I am previously on the record as not being a fan of the 3D Zelda games. Zelda died for me after I played Ocarina of Time for the first time.
Some of the other games might be fun, but they just don't interest me. Just like I'm sure many of the games I listed don't interest you.
I've played all of the games I listed and enjoyed them all. Some moreso than others of course.
Of the ones I listed I have probably played Lost Planet, Viva Pinata, and Dead Rising the most. Last time I checked I had more than 30 hours in on Viva Pinata, I've played through Dead Rising a number of times, and logged over 300 online matches in Lost Planet. I would hit on your other points, but I've got to head out for lunch (Cousin's Subs!). Enjoy the Wii and I'll enjoy my 360 and life will be good for both of us.
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I edited the Post and posted what I think.jones wrote:Nice try. Here's a list of great 360 exclusives. If you like the Wii that's great, just don't go making silly statements like the above.johnbjuice wrote:I HIGHLY disagree with the "no-games" crap about the Wii. I do agree that the Wii definitely does not have very many FPS's or M-Rated titles, but is that what makes a good game. Here's a short list of good Wii-exclusive titles. (And I won't even list Wii Sports/Play!)
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Red Steel
Warioware: Smooth Moves
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Elebits (Sounds stupid but is AWESOME)
Excite Truck
More that I can't think of right now...
Plus they've got Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy coming. The number of exclusive titles is much higher than either of the competing systems.!
Gears of War (Great Game)
Viva Pinata
Table Tennis (Third Party)
Dead Rising (Third Party)
Lost Planet (Third Party) (Over Hyped, but still good)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (Never played it)
Crackdown (Fun Game, but way to short)
Kameo (Also Sucked)
Perfect Dark Zero (Great?!?! this sucked horribly)
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All 3 consoles have their strong point... in UK, it's like this.
360: It's microsoft, it has a huge fanbase, it has Halo 3. It has comfortable controllers, awesome graphics, but... we get ripped off, 360 Elite? WTF, 20GB HDD is extremely expensive, no HDMI for original 360's, cannot use your own HDD. Average price for the core package that's quite affordable. First next-gen console released.
Wii: Fun and new innovative idea from Nintendo. Game libiary (sp >_>) lacking atm, generally regarded as a "kiddie" console, behind in specs (not even HD), old console ports and rehashes, cheapest and rather affordable, doesn't double up as DVD/HDDVD/BluRay player.
PS3: Too expensive, no "killer app", uncomfortable controllers with no rumble is bad, still retains the 1995 image of PSX, BluRay is useless as HD-DVD is cheaper and more widely available, most gamers already bought a 360 or a Wii and see no point in PS3.
360 is clearly winning...
360: It's microsoft, it has a huge fanbase, it has Halo 3. It has comfortable controllers, awesome graphics, but... we get ripped off, 360 Elite? WTF, 20GB HDD is extremely expensive, no HDMI for original 360's, cannot use your own HDD. Average price for the core package that's quite affordable. First next-gen console released.
Wii: Fun and new innovative idea from Nintendo. Game libiary (sp >_>) lacking atm, generally regarded as a "kiddie" console, behind in specs (not even HD), old console ports and rehashes, cheapest and rather affordable, doesn't double up as DVD/HDDVD/BluRay player.
PS3: Too expensive, no "killer app", uncomfortable controllers with no rumble is bad, still retains the 1995 image of PSX, BluRay is useless as HD-DVD is cheaper and more widely available, most gamers already bought a 360 or a Wii and see no point in PS3.
360 is clearly winning...
Somebody please buy my Dreamcast >_> £20+shipping
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