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teraflop122 wrote:
"Terrorists kill people."

Do they all? Have they all in the past? That sentence can be proved wrong by one instance where a terrorist did not kill someone
No, the statement "All terrorists kill people," could be proven wrong in that way.
I suppose at this point, we're just arguing semantics, but no, you're wrong. "Terrorists kill people." refers to all terrorists UNLESS you put a limit in there, such as 'some', or 'a few' or '67'. The general statement (sans limit) does refer to all. Go look up syntax and boolean algebra. The mathematics of a statement. Good stuff...
teraflop122 wrote:
What would be the point of saying something short, simple wrong? You see, my point, which you've proved, was that one has to be careful and not just sum up to sum up. Best not to sum up at all. Best to view an issue from all points and adress them all?
You have forgotten all the instances where a lengthy explanation is not feasible or called for, such as this topic or normal conversation. Hey, I didn't say hot air was a good thing, just being complete and full in an explanation of any major isuue.
Hey, I'm not saying hot air is a better alternative to incomplete thoughts. I'm saying any issue with any merit on the wold-wide political theatre needs a close examination and complete analysis. Please, don't put words in my mouth, yours taste pretty foul.
teraflop122 wrote:You are failing to abide by your own statement.
Not particularily. I've bothered to go this far with you, however blind, misinformed and vague your argument has been. What I said, and you seemed very oblivious to, was that a one sentence explanation of any "ravaging" problem couldn't hope to cover all the bases. To be fair, maybe I should address the world's ADD'd attention span with a little more clarity, considering it is a major problem. That's why I'm trying to address it here.
teraflop122 wrote:
Or would that be to big and complex for you?
Insulting me does not add anything of value to this arguement, nor does it support your claim to be of voting age.
Nope, but it does put a snappy end to your failed argument, unless I'm being to mean to you. In which case, I still don't care. Even more, you're opinion is quite a small factor in this argument. You go figure out why.
teraflop122 wrote:Remember, summing something up for the sake of others does not mean your thoughts on the matter lack complexity or depth.
I'll pretend tht made sense. But really, you failed to mention that earlier. All you said was that summing up in general is good, and I'm warning that it can be dangerous. It can easily lead to a misinterpratation of a situation and on the world scale, that can be a fatal mistake.

I'm gonna have to be the one to end this, since I've got more to do than bicker wisdom with a kid on the other side of a phone cable. I hope I've been able to impart some experience to you, but if not, I would not be at all suprised.
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Ok I'm going to say this right here, right now. CHILL OUT! First the conversation between Luc and Teraflop are boarding on the definition of flaming. There is no need to demean others. If this is not straightened out soon, I will lock and/or remove this thread, I'm not about to tolerate this kind of behavior. We all can agree that we're mature enough to have civil and polite conversations.

As for any wasting of the world, or better yet damaging of the environment. I would like to see concrete proof from the scientific community that they are sure the current ecological situation (ie. global warming) is really a real thing, and not something that has happened in the past. Theories are a nice thing but a theory can best be just a theory with little evidence to prove itself.
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I gotta say, Sparkfist, this might the reason there's little to no intelligent debate here at the forum. I was actually enjoying this, and eagerly awaiting tera's reply. We were having a debate, which is great. It's important to note the line between debate and flamming, and I'm quite certain you've missed it, considering you so blatantly mislabled this deabte as such. Make sure you guys get that straight before you discourage all conversations that have any merit...as we all know, it takes more than a sentance to say anything important, and tera was ever so kind in proving that by engaging me in this deabte in the first place. And then you poo-ed on it. Not cool, not cool at all...

Probably was a bad idea to pop my head back in here in the first place. I've evolved past the forum's staff's comfort level. Too bad, maybe y'all can catch up someday. I'd urge you forum regulars to push for such a change. I bet you can handle it if they'd just let you! :-P

Farewell'd...

PS SF: Chillax, man. If you can't face the music of reality and its discussion, I fear what your impact in the political sphere will be. Conservative?! AHHH!
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Post by daguuy »

Bummer. I was just about to join the debate. I side with teraflop122 on that issue and agree with Luc that debating is good. But if People aren't allowed to have intelligent debates, good bye.
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Post by Unidentified Assilant »

Lol.

I can come up with a problem in the world.

Too much crime, and too much of it is to do with "ethnic minorities" in our country. Black kids murdering white kids (in some instances each other) because of skin colour? WTF
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Post by teraflop122 »

I have been publicly humiliated; My ego has been crushed; I have no intention of continueing this "debate."
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