Reproduce the SNES?

Master of Portables · Post by **Master of Portables** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:29 pm

this would be a great enhancments to the snes portables if this worked, but would only one person get the resized snes board, or would you plan to make a lot of them?

shmagoogin77 · Post by **shmagoogin77** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:37 pm

would it be easier to try working with the snes in the FC TWIN thingy?

Post by **gannon** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm

One of the reasons I added clones to the list of things to look into. Although finding how accurate they are would be a first.

Post by **Triton** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:38 pm

hahaha people listen to me

seriously other than knowing that logic level cloning can be done via fpga im practically useless, i can scout around and try and find some people that might help but its unlikely, this project is very relavent to my intrests tho so lets see if we can keep the ball rolling so to speak and see if we can go somewhere with this

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:39 pm

Dr.Loc wrote:thx for all the answers!
Is it also possible to connect this small snesp with an memory module for example an sd-card and load some roms on it? For example you buy an empty snes flashcard and connect this with your snes-system and your sd-card. If you want to play a rom the sd-card load it into the flash-memory...
Is this possible?

While I'm all for the idea of a small, possibly even single-chip SNES, what you're talking about sounds an awful lot like emulation; plenty of devices, many of them portable, can do exactly what you're proposing, so why re-invent the wheel? As far as making a super-tiny SNES goes, the new FC Twins are ridiculously small, and offer full support for every SNES game we've tested here so far.

Despite the fact that I think it'd be difficult and a hassle to do something that's really completely unnecessary, it still sounds like a fun project to be a part of!

So if you do need an extra hand with design, solder work, etc. I'd be glad to offer my services. Good luck!

CTFan

grahf · Post by **grahf** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:46 pm

In my opinion, its not worth the work.

The super FX dev board recently posted over at the Assembler.org forums contains (most of) an entire SNES on a 3"x3" square (mounted to an ISA card). Now, thats pretty damn tiny. From what i can tell, the memory ICs are not on this board (at least not the top.

The FC Twin board is only about 4"x4" square, and thats complete including the cart connector and RGB (composite encoder is on the back board). You would have a terribly hard time making anything smaller than this, unless you plan on investing serious amounts of time and money. This is already damn small, and runs 100% of the games i own perfectly.

If you still want to do it, more power to you. But for someone just learning, your going in way over your head.

Dr.Loc · Post by **Dr.Loc** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:14 am

I think I buy a GamePark gp2x, load a snes emulator on it and connect it with SD-Card which is full of roms. Then it looks like a snesp...

Dr.Loc · Post by **Dr.Loc** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:22 am

This FC twin looks very good

. I never heard of this...maybe cause i live in germany and here are such things illegal.

Post by **gannon** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:01 am

Dr.Loc wrote:and here are such things illegal.

Pretty sure the SNES portion breaks the law here too

Keine probleme aber

Dr.Loc · Post by **Dr.Loc** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:04 am

khaag · Post by **khaag** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:17 am

jeroen wrote:
Jongamer wrote:Everything is possible if you put your mind and body into it. But Rebuilding would be a lot of work, even for KEVIN H.

and I think finding the parts would be hard as hell, better to just take them out of a SNES mini.
Tiny correction . Ben is nice with electronics but he's no god. (Not that i'm that much better and Ben no offense) I changed ben into kevin. Cause I think even he would have a hard time with it.

Yes, yes I would have a hard time with it.

Krepticor · Post by **Krepticor** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:10 am

well by that definition what you want to do is illegal

Anyway If you are VERY adventurous I think there is a SNES schematic on the Net floating around somewhere

And BTW,

Meinen Deutche ist nicht sehr gut...ich moechte lehrnen, ober bin ich nicht gut studentin.

Post by **gannon** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:42 pm

Krepticor wrote:I think there is a SNES schematic on the Net floating around somewhere

I've already cleaned up / broken down a set of NES and SNES schematics, and have enough NES/SNES parts to do some experimentation.

Krepticor · Post by **Krepticor** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:08 pm

gannon wrote:
Krepticor wrote:I think there is a SNES schematic on the Net floating around somewhere
I've already cleaned up / broken down a set of NES and SNES schematics, and have enough NES/SNES parts to do some experimentation.

then get to work! Arbeitet machst du frei!

timmeh87 · Post by **timmeh87** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:09 pm

ooh. im in a course where we do FPGAs. just last week i "designed" (followed the lab manual) a binary multiplier.

anyways. i dont have my own FPGA. but i mean. down the road when i actually understand VHDL a little better and if we find out where to get a sub-$500 FPGA, im in.

i could help lay out PCBs too.

we are going to have to learn a lot...