Reproduce the SNES?

Dr.Loc · Post by **Dr.Loc** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:24 pm

I want to reproduce the snes cause i want to build a "very" small portable snes. Can I realise this when i buy each electronic part of the snes and build it on a new and smaller platine. Maybe today you can get some similar or even the same elctronical parts in an smd-version.
Is it possible to rebuild the SNES system???

Jongamer · Post by **Jongamer** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:54 pm

Everything is possible if you put your mind and body into it. But Rebuilding would be a lot of work, even for Ben H.

and I think finding the parts would be hard as hell, better to just take them out of a SNES mini.

jeroen · Post by **jeroen** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:02 pm

Jongamer wrote:Everything is possible if you put your mind and body into it. But Rebuilding would be a lot of work, even for KEVIN H.

and I think finding the parts would be hard as hell, better to just take them out of a SNES mini.

Tiny correction

. Ben is nice with electronics but he's no god. (Not that i'm that much better and Ben no offense) I changed ben into kevin. Cause I think even he would have a hard time with it.

shmagoogin77 · Post by **shmagoogin77** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:31 pm

the fc twin has a smaller snes inside of it

Post by **gannon** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:31 pm

Since some chips in the SNES are custom, you'd be better off taking a mini-snes and desoldering/resoldering all the parts if you wanted to do this. I think (if you had the skills) you could make it ~1/2 the size by using a multi-layer pcb (4+), mounting components on each side, and redesiging certain parts/putting in only what you need (if you only need rgb, don't add the rgb->composite circuitry, etc)

Post by **Triton** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:14 pm

or you could do like dennis did with the minimig and build a snes into an fpga or something like that where you use maybe 1-2 of the original chips and the rest is emulated by the fpga, would be a heck of a lot of coding that i dont understand and a lot of pcb work but you could probably cut it down to 1/2 or 1/3 of original size

Dr.Loc · Post by **Dr.Loc** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:21 pm

thx for all the answers!

Is it also possible to connect this small snesp with an memory module for example an sd-card and load some roms on it? For example you buy an empty snes flashcard and connect this with your snes-system and your sd-card. If you want to play a rom the sd-card load it into the flash-memory...
Is this possible?

jeroen · Post by **jeroen** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:29 pm

In theory................but if your asking you can't.

Dr.Loc · Post by **Dr.Loc** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:35 pm

learning by doing

but first I need some suggestions from experts

Post by **gannon** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:38 pm

Dr.Loc wrote:first I need some suggestions from experts

Good luck on getting much help on FPGA programming, electronic engineering, computer science, smt soldering, and pcb design here

Klefmung · Post by **Klefmung** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:54 pm

But gannon, art thou notteth an amateur pcb designer? Among other things?
Most people worship at Ben's feet, while gannon is so much more deserving

Post by **gannon** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:58 pm

Sure, I have *some* semblance of PCB design, but when it comes to interference prevention / crosstalk / etc I'm not too useful.
And umm... donkey kisser

Klefmung · Post by **Klefmung** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:00 pm

Meh, Everyone on these forums, I mean freaking everyone worships ben. You are the greater techy. >_> As for the reproductions, you might be able to find a good forum for every different subcategory of required knowledge like pcb design, computer science, etc. Use google.

Lucretius · Post by **Lucretius** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:01 pm

Hey guys. I don't wanna say I'm back, but gannon pointed this topic out to me, and I think it's an opportunity we shouldn't pass on. So I'll do what ever I can to keep this project happening. Gannon figures he'd help were he can, but you gotta meet him halfway. This has to be a community effort. Whadaya say?

Post by **gannon** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:05 pm

damn you and your motivating power of umm...motivation I guess

Anyways, if there's anyone who seriously wants to make this happen and is willing to work on it, I'd join in. I think the main angles of research would be logic level cloning (via FPGA), circuit redesign, PCB design, and looking at the clones as a substitute based on accuracy/compatibility with different hardware.