XPCportables wrote:because you know that, if you want to, you can just tell your body to grow in a different way
OK if your DNA structure, which tells your body how to form, doesn't change, then... how does this evolution of yours occur???
Man have no controll over its evolution, its a cause of thier enviroment. Man would have looked different in many parts of the world if there was no moon, couse earth would be a place of exremes, Some places would flood HIGH so the humans in that area would likely form gils. the North would have to be harsh, so man would naturally grow fur (Most people who live in Michigan year round usually has long arm hair compaired to people in florida). The No moon example is a sign of evolution working.
Read "On the Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin sometime before forming an Anti-Evolution opinion
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XPCportables wrote:Now as I said above, how about telling me how you went about dating these dinosaur fossils.
Dinner and a movie.
Actually they use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dating">carbon dating</a> to determine how old they are. Basically scientists measure how much of the carbon-14 isotope is left active in the object and compare it to its half-life.
Damn what are they teaching in schools? I learned the basics about fossils in elementary school in a freakin' Magic School Bus book!
Magic School bus was the greatest. A lot of my general knowledge actually came from it!
XPC is right though, as stated in the Wiki carbon dating is only accurate up to 60,000 years. How can you trust it to date fossils supposidely millions of years old? Then again, if dinosaur fossils were actually only thousands of years old, they would be dated as so by it (carbon dating).
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Dr. Gregory House wrote:Good lord, are you having a bowel movement or a baby?
XPCportables wrote:Now as I said above, how about telling me how you went about dating these dinosaur fossils.
Dinner and a movie.
Actually they use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dating">carbon dating</a> to determine how old they are. Basically scientists measure how much of the carbon-14 isotope is left active in the object and compare it to its half-life.
Damn what are they teaching in schools? I learned the basics about fossils in elementary school in a freakin' Magic School Bus book!
"The shells of living mollusks have been dated using the carbon 14 method, only to find that the method gave it a date as having been dead for 23,000 years!(Science vol. 141 1963 pg. 634-637)"
"Living penguins have been carbon dated and the results said that they had died 8,000 years ago! This is just one of many inaccurate dates given by Carbon dating."
"What about a freshly killed seal? Well, they dated one of those too, the results stated that the seal had died 1,300 years ago. (Antarctic Journal vol. 6 Sept-Oct 1971 pg. 211)
Antarctic seawater has a low level of C14. Consequently organisms living there dated by C14 give ages much older than their true age.
A lake Bonney seal known to have died only a few weeks before was carbon dated. The results stated that the seal had died between 515 and 715 years ago. (Antarctic Journal, Washington) "
Potassium-argon dating
"Scientists got dates of 164 million and 3 billion years for two Hawaiian lava flows. But these lava flows happened only about 200 years ago in 1800 and 1801.
("Dry bones and other fossils" by Dr. Gary Parker)
OK lets just say, for example, the Flood did happen (which I believe did) and all those humans plants and animals were CRUSHED under all that water, right? OK so noah gets off his really big boat called the "ark" and the first thing he notices? The smell of all the suff!!! Sick!
oh yah. Good read... well I'm outta here, I fear to see what this thread looks like later tonight, I'm gonna play Gunz: the duel, Ill likely be on server1 and my name is firemastor, if anybody wants to play.
All the worlds religions say there was a flood, am i correct. But all the worlds religons allso state that Witches and other nightmareish creatures exist, does that mean they exist too?
gamer2 wrote:All the worlds religions say there was a flood, am i correct. But all the worlds religons allso state that Witches and other nightmareish creatures exist, does that mean they exist too?
Absolutly! I would explain but I don't want to get "too-religious" so PM me and I will explain.
As for Adam and Eve. The garden they lived in was one of the hanging gardens of babylon. The man that put them there was not a god of any type, but rather a babylonian king. Adam, Lillith, and Eve were gardeners, that were given one of the hanging gardens to tend to. They had 2 rules to follow. Do not eat from the kings private orchard. And have no children. Lillith was Adams first companion, his first wife. Lillith did not like being told to never have children, so she rebeled. Lillith slept with the guard (which many versions of the bible called demons), trying to get pregnant.
Eventually, Adam began falling in love with Lillith, the only woman he ever saw. He tried to mate with her, but her habits had resulted in her never having to lay apon the ground. She refused to be on bottom, to be soiled by the ground. the king saw thier dispute from his window high above. It was unheard of for a woman to not obey a man blindly, and so Lillith was removed from the garden, and likely executed painfully.
Soon after Adam grew lonely, and his work in the garden suffered from this, so the king brought him a now companion, Eve. Eve was much younger than Adam, naive and immature. Eve had also not be told that the kings orchard was forbidden. The king had left it to Adam to teach her what she should know. The young Eve was quickly smitten with Adam, and adam with her. One day Eve came apon a fruit in the garden of which she had never tasted. She tried the fruit, and found it to be the most delicious thing she had ever eaten, and took several others to adam as a gift to show her love. With this gift, Adam took Eve as his wife.
Some months later, Eve was show showing her first preganancy. Adam was terrified, thet he would lose Eve as he had lost Lillith. For Eve had broken one of the rules, she was with child. The king was coming to walk in his gardens. Apon seeing the king, Adam took Eve by the hand, and ran to hide her. The king called out to his gardener, and Adam did not answer. The king continued to call for Adam as he walked amongst the garden. Adam held his wife close as he hid them both in the foliage, keeping a large leaf before his wifes belly to hide it from view.
When the king found Adam, Adam stood fast in the foliage instead of coming forth to greet the king properly. The king asked why he hid himself and the girl, and continues to hide behind the leaf. Adam and Eve, as the kings gardener, were slaves, and has no right to cover themselves.
Adam had worked hard throughout his life to the king. And Adam respected the king truefully, where as most of his subjects only feared him. So the king had let them go, when he saw Eve steal from his orchard. But Eve was now pregnant, both of the rules that he had set for Adam and his comapnions was now broken. Normally the punishment for disobeying ones owner, much less the king was death. But Adam was the kings favorite gardener, and so he and Eve were alllowed to live. But nolonger would they live in the beautiful gardens that the king had entrusted them with, they were banished from Babylon with orders to never return on punishment of death.
Dinosaurs are also in the Bible. There are several descriptions in the book of Job that illustrate large animals 'eating like oxen'. In one part, there is a named animal (can't believe I forgot what it was) that is actually a dinosaur, so dinosaurs existed in biblical times. The Bible also determines the world's age to be 6000 years old at least, so dinosaurs could have theoretically existed 6000 years ago.
