/me is looking for good programming web references

[bicostp]

Ok here's the story:

I'm looking for something new to do. Classes are boring when there's nothing going on (read: most of the time). So I want to learn some basic PHP and Python (not Monty ) programming. It would be something to do, and it would put this old laptop of mine into good use.

Does anyone have any good tutorials or eBooks on general Python or PHP? I've been searching but all I find are "hold your hand while I give you code to copy and paste" tutorial sites. I'm looking for stuff like the "For Dummies" books, where it gives you examples to work off of, rather than full code you can just copy right onto your server.

I'm just looking to learn how to do some basic stuff in both, mostly form and database work in PHP and text adventure-like games in Python. (because 1994-era n00b web is lousy and inefficient, and QBASIC isn't great for making IF games. and Zmachine is far beyond the "dabbler" stage, I guess.

If it helps any I'm pretty good with BASIC, and from what I have seen, text Python is sort of similar.

Thanks everybody!

[Sparkfist]

Programming Tutorials.com they have both those languages listed.

[daguuy]

here's something i found. it has lots of stuff so it's sure to have some good tutorials

[gannon]

as far as PHP goes the best resource is http://php.net