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Cyberblade
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Post by Cyberblade »

benheckc wrote: My personal opinion is Nintendo is relegating the Revolution to "for kids" status only, the major indicator of which is the lack of HD support (which kids don't care about but adults do) Yes they've got the money to do this, but I think it's really the pride that's driving them to. There's really no logic.
I don't care about HD and I'm not a child, why you ask? Because I am one of the 80% who don't own a freakin HD TV! It's a cost thing for Nintendo to cut HD. If only 20% of your audience, even less because Nintendo isn't tech savvy is going to use a feature, then why support it? It's why they took the component output out of the Gamecube, nobody freaking used it.


MARIO on the PS2 would outsell MARIO on the Gamecube by a large margin. Why? Because people actually OWN PS2s!
People do own gamecubes, but not in the same mass number that the PS2. It kinda helped Sony to beat them out of the gate, just as it does anything. N64 could never have caught up with PSOne, neither could Gamecube catch up to PS2.

Also, I don't believe Nintendo is pushing the Revolution to a childrens audience this time around. The console looks so much cooler than the other systems, rather than the Xbox 360 and it's ugliness, and the PS3's fat grilling capabilities, the Revolution actually looks cool. Also, Nintendo didn't mention a Mario game for the Revolution, although you know there will be one, they didn't mention a crap Mario spin off, but good games. They've announced the most adult games they've got, rather then Mario or Yoshi games.

Super Smash Bros.
Metroid Prime 3
Legend of Zelda

Those have been the only games I've heard announced for the revolution, which doesn't sound like a childish list really.

Nintendo can't compete with Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo doesn't have the amount of money to go toe to toe with Sony, and no company has more money to push than Microsoft. Nintendo rather, is doing what they do best. They're trying something different. The Revolutionary part of the revolution is the input, not the classic games. Those are a nice extra to appeal to us. If the revolution controller is capable then I guarantee someone on this board will start a portable instantly because of it's small size.
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About 1/2 way into that last one, it states the IF ps2 owned mario....


Well, they dont.
Thats why they are still alive. I honestly dont like the PS2 at all. I dont like any games for it, because all the games worth playing are much better on the Xbox.
And then Nintendo. The games are fun, the only ones I dont like are the ones on GBA that are for kids 8 and under. The GB micro would be good for kids with small hands, but would you trust a 5 year old with a 129$ TINY gameboy? I wouldnt. I like the gamecube games and I totally agree with the idea that the revolutions graphics wont be bad. Gamecubes graphics had me amazed, I had been playing SUPER SMASH BROS for the N64 the week before. The controller was comfortable. The first game we played was Super monkey ball, and to this day I still play it.
Back to SONY. Now they get money more from their other products rather than the games. Their money situation went even lower when they got sued.
Playstation makes the most games of all 3 systems, and thats obvious. Try to go to Blockbuster to get an XBOX or Gamecube game. The gamecube games get 1/2 of a shelf. The other side of it sells PS2 accessories.
The Ps2 games have rows and rows of games, and I dont understand why. The gamecube games listed arent really their best, and there is only about 15-25 different games, Most of them are games like animal crossing that either make you want to Re-rent the game or to buy it.

I dont really have much to say about Xbox. My brother has one with 4 S controllers, and its really fun playing games like GTA san andreas. I still think the controllers are a little big, but some people have bigger hands to hold it. And i can understand because about all of their games involve non childish themes. The Xbox graphics are pretty good, and the games are pretty good too. I dont like the Xbox fanboys at school because when I ask them to name some good games, they automatically say Halo 2. And from personal experience, I would rather play Counterstrike on the PC for that game.(or halflife 2)
So what do I mean? The PS2 dosent have that many "hit charecters" like nintendo, and niether does Xbox. Xbox dosent have to worry because their games are good and the Xbox 360 comes out soon.
Nintendo still sells newer copies of old games, and I believe they will do great on the revolution by getting all those NES games. NEs games were fun because they involved practice, and they were usually Very hard to beat.
And people buy them! If you dont like the 100$ gameboy, dont buy it. I dont actually think the Micro will sell at that price. They already did the SP, and the micro is prolly not worth the price. Though that is the japaneese price, not US dollars.

So In my opinion, I cant stand the PS2; I dont like the games, loading times, or the graphics. I like the gamecube because the games are great and the graphics are awesome, and its really small. I also like the XBOX because even though its practically just a big gaming computer, the games are good, the graphics are good, and the controllers are good for people with big hands.
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bicostp wrote:
Console fanboys, sixth-graders, and the like would have wrote:But OMFG it's sooooo tiny! I just HAVE to buy it and throw away my functionally-identical SP!
:roll:

I didn't even buy a GBA SP because I already have a GBA!

Jeez this is what, the third Game Boy Advance platform? And people say Sony is bad because they redesigned the PSX and the PS2. :lol:

Update:
Yahoo! News wrote:The company is expanding its portable offerings in part to counter sinking sales of its Nintendo GameCube amid rival offerings such as Sony Corp (NYSE:SNE - news).'s PlayStation and Microsoft Corp.'s
Xbox.
re-releasing an existing (failing) console is "expanding their offerings"? I think not. And the GCN is still sinking in sales? No commenbt... Take THAT Nintendo! ZING!
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still not getting it

Post by striderx »

why released a 128 bit handheld(nintendo ds) and then go back to the gba and then there going to release a revolution system almost at the same time do you think the will be the next to go into depth
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Post by Conn »

Strider, do you know nothing? The DS isn't 128-bit, that's the HOME CONSOLES RIGHT NOW. It's 64-bit.

Second, it has been said many, many times by Nintendo that the DS is anoher handheld that goes side-by-side with the GBA, NOT A SUCCESOR!

Third, The Revolution has a release of '2006', nothing more specific. The GBMirco, on the other hand, has one in September.

Fourth, learn English.
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Post by soundwave »

do you think the will be the next to go into depth
...I'm stunned. How can anyone be this illiterate..
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Post by benheck »

Yes but I think the HD sets WILL be in more homes very soon, especially during the next 5 years life of consoles (or 10 if you believe Sony)

So the Revolution will be stuck in the old days,
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Post by Conn »

By then I'm sure Nintendo will re-release the Revolution with another design and HDTV support.
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Post by bicostp »

But none of the existing games would be written to take advantage of high definition, so they'd re-release all of them in "HD" versions. "Super Mario 64 Revolution 2 HD" :roll:

I don't know if it's genious or pure evil.
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Post by Conn »

Eh, as long as it still uses the old save data.. *coughsupermario64rumblecough*
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benheckc wrote:Yes but I think the HD sets WILL be in more homes very soon, especially during the next 5 years life of consoles (or 10 if you believe Sony)

So the Revolution will be stuck in the old days,
I still don't see the problem with this. When HD sets are in most homes 5 years from now, it will already be 2/3 of the say through the consoles' lives. I can't see how leaving HD out could hurt Nintendo at all.
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To sum up the argument: Some people hate Nintendo because they aren't follwing suit and making outrageously expensive graphics-crunching powerhouses with support for technologies that won't be in most homes for 5 years yet. They constantly re-release new versions of the GBA (why you think this is bad for you I'll never know, no one is forcing you to buy them). And they won't create any new franchises, even though they will inovate on old ones unlike their competition. Oh yeah, and Nintendo is only for kids, because the big N can manage to make fun games that don't involve sex and gore. This will somehow cause them to die off even though they're the only console manufacturer actually turning a profit on videogames & system sales.

Did I get that aobut right?
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MajorLag wrote:To sum up the argument: Some people hate Nintendo because they aren't follwing suit and making outrageously expensive graphics-crunching powerhouses with support for technologies that won't be in most homes for 5 years yet. They constantly re-release new versions of the GBA (why you think this is bad for you I'll never know, no one is forcing you to buy them). And they won't create any new franchises, even though they will inovate on old ones unlike their competition. Oh yeah, and Nintendo is only for kids, because the big N can manage to make fun games that don't involve sex and gore. This will somehow cause them to die off even though they're the only console manufacturer actually turning a profit on videogames & system sales.

Did I get that aobut right?
I would say so.

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Post by striderx »

i dont like because the put sega out of bussiness (bussiness im talking about is console making) but other wise there ok
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Post by Conn »

Well actually, Nintendo kidna makes new franchises, but they're spinoffs (The Wario Ware series, or Yoshi's games for example). I think some should be retired. Now I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I think some series..es.. should be stopped and have new ones take it's place.
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