Nintendo Revolution and High Defintition

Motoman · Post by **Motoman** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:42 pm

IGN has set up a Nintendo Email thingy where you can send your emails and tell them why they shoud put in High Def on the Revolution

http://cube.ign.com/articles/625/625423p1.html

Send in your thoughts on why they should have High Def!!

peppers · Post by **peppers** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:44 pm

Im sure they probubley will put RGB in it but I onley ever use composit anyway witch it fine for me

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:45 pm

And for the middleclass....composite will do for me.

goodie · Post by **goodie** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:23 pm

Here's my complaint letter I just wrote them:

To whom it may concern:

I recently read on a few web sites that the Nintendo "Revolution" will not feature HDTV output. I am very disappointed in this decision, as are many other people I know. This is a very bad mistake. I'm sorry, but 480i and 480p simply don't cut it anymore. You need to at least support 720p. If you don't, the graphics will look very bad compared to your competitors' HD graphics, and that will lure many people over to getting their consoles, rather than yours. Really, supporting HD resolutions should not be that expensive. ATI, the company responsible for making your "Hollywood" graphics chip, has many affordable video cards that support HDTV. It would not be a problem for them to include it in your system. Also, HDTVs are getting cheaper every day. In two or three years, when the Revolution is halfway through its life, HDTVs are going to be far more cheaper than even now. Many more families will own HDTVs by then. For this generation, HDTV is simply no longer optional- it is a necessity. You also say it would be an extra cost to developers. Well, for the most part that is not an issue either. Many of your 3rd party developers are making games for PS3 and Xbox 360, both of which support HDTV. So they already have the necessary equipment to support HDTV anyway. I hate to say it, but you are making adults hate your systems and games by making decisions like this. Many of them will refuse to buy a console that does not support HD resolutions. If you go through with this decision, you will lose a large portion of your audience. If it costs a little more to add HDTV capabilites to your system, then simply make the price of the system a little higher. You'll more than make up for the cost in sales. I've been a big Nintendo fan for many years, but I'm getting tired of these kinds of decisions. You need to listen to your customers more, and we are saying to give us HDTV support in the Revolution. I hope you reconsider this, as I would hate to see you guys fail. And that's what will happen if you mess up again, I'm afraid. I am certain that if you support HDTV, along with your plans to make games that anyone can enjoy, then everyone will buy your console. Otherwise, things look pretty dim, sadly.
Thank you for your time. -Joshua T.

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:44 pm

i can understand why people wh keep up with technology would think that but i still havn't upgraded from my ninteen seventy something TV. by the time everybody has an HDTV, i'll probably have a TV from the early 90's

Post by **benheck** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:44 pm

I heard about this a couple days ago but didn't post anything until now.

Not supporting HDTV is really really REALLY stupid. It's clear that they either have 1) no intention of marketing to adults and savey gamers or 2) are completely out of their minds. Really this is worse than "no CD-ROM" for the N64!

If Nintendo wants people to think they're selling a junk box to throw in the kid's room, well then I guess this IS the way to go. Really, it sounds like all they care about now are the kids. Maybe they've given up on the 20 and 30-somethings altogether. Might as well to be honest.

If however they want adults, the largest gaming demographic, to purchase the system (and not just the adults with kids or gaming wives) then they REALLY should think about this decision.

Nintendo is probably thinking that the number of HDTV sets now and next year upon release and used by players will not be high enough to justify the extra expense of adding parts to their system. Thing is, what about down the road, say 2008 or 2009, when HDTV's can be had for $500 of less, and a good number of people WILL have them.

Anyone familiar with PC gaming knows 640x480 is a joke. TV is going forward, why isn't Nintendo?

This is a really short-sited measure and if true, will put the final nail in the nearly complete Nintendo console coffin.

Side note: I read the Xbox pi R*2 only does 1080i, as in interlaced, not progressive. Is this true? I still think the PS3 will cream it. Supposedly it can output TWO 1080p displays. Think of it! HI-RES VIDEOGLASSES! That would rock!

peppers · Post by **peppers** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:02 pm

Post by **Gamelver** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:02 pm

benheckc wrote:Side note: I read the Xbox pi R*2 only does 1080i, as in interlaced, not progressive. Is this true? I still think the PS3 will cream it. Supposedly it can output TWO 1080p displays. Think of it! HI-RES VIDEOGLASSES! That would rock!

oooh...that WOULD be cool

.....and the PS3 will probably end up being the leader in sales, as is the PS2....though I still think the revolution's gonna kick ass

...

xxxeagle · Post by **xxxeagle** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:03 pm

I definetly think nintendo will lose a lot of their customers if they do this they should support hdtv in the revolution its not realy that much to ask you would think they would have known that. Also If this system fails then nintendo will probably go down the tubes I think they are running out of creative Ideas like the gba micro Its kind of cool but Its still just a gba with a better screen they should have just focused on the evolution instead of the pointless gba micro. All the kids I talk to at school hate the ds they would rather buy a psp and a lot are trading in their ds to get monye or a psp. Nintendo should start concentrating on older gamers more from the ages of 12 to 34 and they will be more sucessful Im not saying that they should stop conentrating on the younger gamers just put more effort into the people who really buy and play games a lot more.

peppers · Post by **peppers** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:07 pm

most normal people are not conserned with the kind of hook up there consoles use it wont hert sales

Reploid Ayla · Post by **Reploid Ayla** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:08 pm

i dont see what the big deal is. speaking in affordable terms Nintendo will easily be the most affordable out of the three. Although we all know graphics sell, Nintendo might have something up their sleeve gameplay wise. I could give two crap about HD, not just because i dont have a HDTV, but why on earth would you want a home video game console in high def? Until photo realistic graphics are here i wouldn't think High definition would matter all that much. It still wont look real, so why try? I completely understand High Definition for film and television because it it a step cloaser to having it look like it is completely a realistic representation of life. But for a video game? it seems like a cheesy ploy to make it look real.

xxxeagle · Post by **xxxeagle** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:15 pm

Reploid Ayla wrote:i dont see what the big deal is. speaking in affordable terms Nintendo will easily be the most affordable out of the three. Although we all know graphics sell, Nintendo might have something up their sleeve gameplay wise. I could give two excrement about HD, not just because i dont have a HDTV, but why on earth would you want a home video game console in high def? Until photo realistic graphics are here i wouldn't think High definition would matter all that much. It still wont look real, so why try? I completely understand High Definition for film and television because it it a step cloaser to having it look like it is completely a realistic representation of life. But for a video game? it seems like a cheesy ploy to make it look real.

Not really I know a guy who modded his xbox with rgb output and has a hdtv and you can tell aa difference compared to regulaur tv with a/v plugs and after a year or two you will see even better graphics on these consoles look at some of the first ps2 games and compare them to the grafics that games have now they have improved quite a bit.

Older Ps2
http://www.hsgamers.com/multiplatform/madden2003/7.jpg
Newer Ps2
http://www.maddenguides.com/images/Scre ... een484.jpg

peppers · Post by **peppers** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:18 pm

you frend is ether foolish or cheap you dont need to modd an xbox to get RGB output and of course the picture is goning to look better on a hdtv than a regular tv

xxxeagle · Post by **xxxeagle** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:22 pm

He probaly figured why not put rgb in it while he has it open and I dont know how it is cheap becuase its not like his tv only has rgb inputs and he had to do it he just did it cause he thought it would look better and it does.

peppers · Post by **peppers** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:23 pm

bacause RGB cables for the xbox are onley $7 the video out on the xbox already has RGB pins