...Thinking about moving to Canada...

khaag · Post by **khaag** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:48 am

Sure Alberta's kinda nice (albeit on the western side closer to BC

) but you're all horrible drivers! No offence, but I can't stand seeing the Albertans driving on the roads! They're all over the place!

But seriously, if you're gonna visit ANY province, it has to be Beautiful British Columbia

Gordon1 · Post by **Gordon1** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:57 am

khaag wrote:Sure Alberta's kinda nice (albeit on the western side closer to BC ) but you're all horrible drivers! No offence, but I can't stand seeing the Albertans driving on the roads! They're all over the place!

But seriously, if you're gonna visit ANY province, it has to be Beautiful British Columbia

I do agree with you, Alberta drivers are quite bad, but that is ok. I'm actually from Saskatchewan.

To be entirely honest I do like Sask more but it only appeals to me, most people don't like wide open spaces. Alberta is more appealing to the masses I would say.

Not to be a dick but you sound like a travel agent.

Post by **bicostp** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:34 am

khaag wrote:Sure Alberta's kinda nice (albeit on the western side closer to BC ) but you're all horrible drivers! No offence, but I can't stand seeing the Albertans driving on the roads! They're all over the place!

But seriously, if you're gonna visit ANY province, it has to be Beautiful British Columbia

You've never been to Rhode Island, have you?

They don't know what that funny lever on the left side of the steering column does, and signs are irrelevant. Aim for potholes. Yielding is for sissies. If you're on the highway and someone's coming up the ramp, you slow down or stop to let them out. If there's an accident or road construction on the other side of the highway, do 25 in all 3 lanes so you can stare at it. Combine this with the tiny onramps with trees in the medians, large population of old people, and theft of low number license plates, and you've got a disaster waiting to happen.

Massachusetts isn't much better. We know how to use the blinkers, but are much more rude and aggressive as we navigate our spaghetti roads and leaky tunnels. Oh well, we've come to expect it.

grossaffe · Post by **grossaffe** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:34 am

bicostp wrote:
khaag wrote:Sure Alberta's kinda nice (albeit on the western side closer to BC ) but you're all horrible drivers! No offence, but I can't stand seeing the Albertans driving on the roads! They're all over the place!

But seriously, if you're gonna visit ANY province, it has to be Beautiful British Columbia
You've never been to Rhode Island, have you?

They don't know what that funny lever on the left side of the steering column does, and signs are irrelevant. Aim for potholes. Yielding is for sissies. If you're on the highway and someone's coming up the ramp, you slow down or stop to let them out. If there's an accident or road construction on the other side of the highway, do 25 in all 3 lanes so you can stare at it. Combine this with the tiny onramps with trees in the medians, large population of old people, and theft of low number license plates, and you've got a disaster waiting to happen.

Massachusetts isn't much better. We know how to use the blinkers, but are much more rude and aggressive as we navigate our spaghetti roads and leaky tunnels. Oh well, we've come to expect it.

bah, lack of turn signals is nothing. That's how it is in Northern Virginia. Washington DC, however, has TERRIBLE drivers. seriously, I don't feel safe driving in DC. The first time that I was behind the wheel in DC scared the crap out of me. In the middle of an intersection, a car decided that they didn't enjoy being behind me, but rather thought they deserved to get in front of me... so car pulled out into on-coming traffic to squeeze in front of me. the kicker: there was a cop RIGHT there and he didn't care.

khaag · Post by **khaag** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:57 am

Fack.. I should be happy with the Albertans then

At least I don't got no eastern gringos to worry about

Although you'd think the Albertans being able to drive at the age of 14 would give them the extra couple of years of practice, yet I KNOW I'd out-drive an Albertan ANY day!

Gordon1 · Post by **Gordon1** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:18 pm

khaag wrote:Fack.. I should be happy with the Albertans then At least I don't got no eastern gringos to worry about

Although you'd think the Albertans being able to drive at the age of 14 would give them the extra couple of years of practice, yet I KNOW I'd out-drive an Albertan ANY day!

yep and I don't even have my license and I can out drive them!

Kurt_ · Post by **Kurt_** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:16 pm

14 is damn early to start driving.

Especially if you think about it like this:

I'm 19. I stayed back a semester in high school, and worked for half a year full time. That's how I could afford paying for a car, not including gas or insurance. (The actual sharing of funds is irrelevant).

Anyone who is 14 and has a car (I guess 15 for your drive-on-your-own license) does NOT make this kind of money working for minimum wage at McDonalds, and this is assuming a place will hire them, since they are under 16, the legal age to work for minimum wage. Their money comes from their parents, who are rich enough to buy their kids their own car and pay for the gas and insurance for a 15 year old.

90% of those kids are spoiled brats. I mean, their parents bought them a friggin' car at 15. So they're probably attention-whores. (I know a few spoiled but non-attention-- whorey people, don't get me wrong). Therefore, they will drive poorly on purpose, for the entertainment of their little friends in the seats beside them. Also, at the age of 15, "Let's get drunk and then drive on the freeway!" still sounds like a great idea for having fun.

Personally, I think the driving age (For driving on your own, not your learners permit) should be bumped up a year in Ontario, where I am, to 18. Nobody in high school NEEDS to drive. There is a wonderful school bus system for every school around here. It would cut down on immature drivers on the roads.

Don't get me wrong, I still have my fair share of immature driving moments. However, they do not endanger anyone in or around my vehicle. Someone younger, with an inferior sense of imminent death, may not conform to such a simple and basic rule.

eurddrue · Post by **eurddrue** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:32 pm

I have always loved canada, we used to take a field trip to regina every school year and I loved it. I would move to canada in a heartbeat.

Gordon1 · Post by **Gordon1** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:01 pm

Kurt_ wrote:14 is damn early to start driving.

Especially if you think about it like this:

I'm 19. I stayed back a semester in high school, and worked for half a year full time. That's how I could afford paying for a car, not including gas or insurance. (The actual sharing of funds is irrelevant).

Anyone who is 14 and has a car (I guess 15 for your drive-on-your-own license) does NOT make this kind of money working for minimum wage at McDonalds, and this is assuming a place will hire them, since they are under 16, the legal age to work for minimum wage. Their money comes from their parents, who are rich enough to buy their kids their own car and pay for the gas and insurance for a 15 year old.

90% of those kids are spoiled brats. I mean, their parents bought them a friggin' car at 15. So they're probably attention-whores. (I know a few spoiled but non-attention-- whorey people, don't get me wrong). Therefore, they will drive poorly on purpose, for the entertainment of their little friends in the seats beside them. Also, at the age of 15, "Let's get drunk and then drive on the freeway!" still sounds like a great idea for having fun.

Personally, I think the driving age (For driving on your own, not your learners permit) should be bumped up a year in Ontario, where I am, to 18. Nobody in high school NEEDS to drive. There is a wonderful school bus system for every school around here. It would cut down on immature drivers on the roads.

Don't get me wrong, I still have my fair share of immature driving moments. However, they do not endanger anyone in or around my vehicle. Someone younger, with an inferior sense of imminent death, may not conform to such a simple and basic rule.

In Alberta you can get you learners license at the age of 14. Which means there has to be a 18 or older person with you in the car at all times. Even if you are 25 and you are just getting your learners you have to have it for 1 year before you can try for your license.

The Minimum age to be driving alone is 16 (if you have had your learners for a year)

The minimum wage in Alberta is $8.40 but anyone who actually makes that is a fool. Alberta is in a labour crunch (ahahah it said labour was spelled wrong) so anyone with a pulse can get at least $10 an hour. Anyone can go buy a Geo metro that gets 50MPG for $400 and insurance is a fair bit but when you make $10 about 14hrs a week times 52 equals $7280. Which is certainly enough to do it on your own.

The busing system where I live (calgary) is really bad. Since there is a lack of workers the buses don't have enough drivers.

In Alberta you can work at the age of 12.

Alberta Government wrote: Minimum Age

With the written permission of a parent or guardian adolescents age 12 to 15 may be hired to work:

* as a delivery person of such items as newspapers or flyers,
* in a retail store as a clerk, or
* in an office as an office clerk.
* as a store delivery person

They must not work any hours from 9:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. And they can work a maximum of two hours on a school day and eight hours on any other day.

An employer may not hire a person of age 15 to (and including) age 17 to work between midnight and 6:00 a.m. in connection with hotels, gas stations or retail stores selling drinks, food or any other products. And may only work at these places between 9:00 p.m. and midnight if supervised at all times by someone of age 18 or older.

With the written permission from a parent or guardian a person age 15 to (and including) age 17 may work under the supervision of an adult in nursing or care homes, hospitals, or manufacturing plants.

So, your laws in Ontario are way different than ours and your answers don't reflect that.

JKO-K6 · Post by **JKO-K6** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:24 am

Gordon1 wrote:6. Most of Canada HATES Quebec. In 1995 Quebec had a vote of who wanted to stay a province of Canada or Become their own Country. The voting ended up being 49.6% wanted to leave and 5.4% wanted to stay. And for that I hate them. Also, they act like their own little country with political systems taking on the name of national assembly or something like that. Their only official language is french, where as the rest of Canada minus New Brunswick is all English. Real french people from France laugh at Quebec cause they are so pathetic.

That's a bit rude don't you think? If you hate us so much, why don't you agree to let us leave? We are a lot more socialist (on the left side) than the rest of the Canada and that why we would prefer to be our own country. Take a walk in Montreal and you will see, we are almost perfectly billingual. If you want your high school diploma (DES), for exemple, you have to pass French and English of Secondary 5, you fail english, you fail school. (And we laugh about the french from France too. They are saying our french is bad when half the words they use are english)

khaag wrote:2)English is our language. Even Quebec isn't officially bilingual anymore contrary to popular belief. New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province. French is definitely a very small majority. (Even though I like the language as a language)

No seriously we really are billingual. Some suck a it, but if you look in general, it's mostly billingual.

(Oh and by the way hi everybody! Long time no see! (Stumble Upon is really evil))

project_failure · Post by **project_failure** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:16 am

(Oh and by the way hi everybody! Long time no see! (Stumble Upon is really evil))

Your the last person I expected to see a post from. Welcome back.

Hmm. I was thinking about Canada while I was at work today and realized I wanted to go there, but I have no idea which part I would visit.

Any Ideas?

grossaffe · Post by **grossaffe** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:17 am

Kurt_ wrote:14 is damn early to start driving.

Especially if you think about it like this:

I'm 19. I stayed back a semester in high school, and worked for half a year full time. That's how I could afford paying for a car, not including gas or insurance. (The actual sharing of funds is irrelevant).

Anyone who is 14 and has a car (I guess 15 for your drive-on-your-own license) does NOT make this kind of money working for minimum wage at McDonalds, and this is assuming a place will hire them, since they are under 16, the legal age to work for minimum wage. Their money comes from their parents, who are rich enough to buy their kids their own car and pay for the gas and insurance for a 15 year old.

90% of those kids are spoiled brats. I mean, their parents bought them a friggin' car at 15. So they're probably attention-whores. (I know a few spoiled but non-attention-- whorey people, don't get me wrong). Therefore, they will drive poorly on purpose, for the entertainment of their little friends in the seats beside them. Also, at the age of 15, "Let's get drunk and then drive on the freeway!" still sounds like a great idea for having fun.

Personally, I think the driving age (For driving on your own, not your learners permit) should be bumped up a year in Ontario, where I am, to 18. Nobody in high school NEEDS to drive. There is a wonderful school bus system for every school around here. It would cut down on immature drivers on the roads.

Don't get me wrong, I still have my fair share of immature driving moments. However, they do not endanger anyone in or around my vehicle. Someone younger, with an inferior sense of imminent death, may not conform to such a simple and basic rule.

every car that I have owned I have paid for with my own money that I worked for. My first car I bought at 16 from money I earned working at a grocery store for 9 months, not long after getting a license (took a little time to find a car in my price-range that didn't suck). now, at the age of 19, I'm driving a bit nicer of a car ('99 sable), which I got the money for by working full-time over the summer after graduation as a computer technician for a small company.

Kurt_ · Post by **Kurt_** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:46 am

project_failure wrote:
(Oh and by the way hi everybody! Long time no see! (Stumble Upon is really evil))
Your the last person I expected to see a post from. Welcome back.

Hmm. I was thinking about Canada while I was at work today and realized I wanted to go there, but I have no idea which part I would visit.

Any Ideas?

It depends what you like. If you like flat stuff, go saskatchewan. If you like bumpy stuff, go alberta. If you like northern rainforestey stuff, go BC. If you like wet stuff, go Maritimes. If you like forestey stuff go northern ontario, city stuff southern. And if you like could stuff, go north of any of them.

But nobody cares about Manitoba.

Gordon1 · Post by **Gordon1** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:38 pm

Kurt_ wrote:
project_failure wrote:
(Oh and by the way hi everybody! Long time no see! (Stumble Upon is really evil))
Your the last person I expected to see a post from. Welcome back.

Hmm. I was thinking about Canada while I was at work today and realized I wanted to go there, but I have no idea which part I would visit.

Any Ideas?
It depends what you like. If you like flat stuff, go saskatchewan. If you like bumpy stuff, go alberta. If you like northern rainforestey stuff, go BC. If you like wet stuff, go Maritimes. If you like forestey stuff go northern ontario, city stuff southern. And if you like could stuff, go north of any of them.

But nobody cares about Manitoba.

agreed

JKO-K6 wrote:
Gordon1 wrote:6. Most of Canada HATES Quebec. In 1995 Quebec had a vote of who wanted to stay a province of Canada or Become their own Country. The voting ended up being 49.6% wanted to leave and 5.4% wanted to stay. And for that I hate them. Also, they act like their own little country with political systems taking on the name of national assembly or something like that. Their only official language is french, where as the rest of Canada minus New Brunswick is all English. Real french people from France laugh at Quebec cause they are so pathetic.
That's a bit rude don't you think? If you hate us so much, why don't you agree to let us leave? We are a lot more socialist (on the left side) than the rest of the Canada and that why we would prefer to be our own country. Take a walk in Montreal and you will see, we are almost perfectly billingual. If you want your high school diploma (DES), for exemple, you have to pass French and English of Secondary 5, you fail english, you fail school. (And we laugh about the french from France too. They are saying our french is bad when half the words they use are english)

khaag wrote:2)English is our language. Even Quebec isn't officially bilingual anymore contrary to popular belief. New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province. French is definitely a very small majority. (Even though I like the language as a language)
No seriously we really are billingual. Some suck a it, but if you look in general, it's mostly billingual.

(Oh and by the way hi everybody! Long time no see! (Stumble Upon is really evil))

No, I don't think its rude. However, since you are a child (that's a guess) you were not able to vote in the 1995 referendum. I don't really want to get on this topic.... so I wont.

On your own you may be, but according to Canada you have one official language. That is french.

And why the hell is the Gilles Duceppe in the federal debate when the bloc Quebecois is a provincial party? Please tell me why. Or, the is it called the National Assembly where it is the Legislative Assembly in all over provinces? sorry, I just hate Quebec.

Oh, I am right wing!

extremesonic · Post by **extremesonic** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:32 am

Kurt_ wrote:Ontario residents now pay 14% in taxes on everything. Yeah, it's a lot. But hey, I like where I live!!

13% chief. GST is 5% as of Jan 08, and Ontario's PST is 8%.

I like living in Canada, it is pretty great. I haven't spent significant time in another country to really compare, but I have not complaints. Though I will say the US has better junk food selections(like crazy cereals, pops[yeah we have pop, not soda], and other crap), but otherwise you shouldn't find the change to be all that difficult to adjust to.

Southern Ontario and BC seem to be tops when it comes to places Americans want to move to/places to live in general. Different strengths and weaknesses to both, but seem to average out about the same.

I'd also toss Alberta in there too, just for the low tax(only 5% on taxable goods, they have no PST) and the Edmonton Mall(world's largest mall, iirc, or at least in the top 3). Place has a giant water park and amusement park inside of it, and still has an insane amount of stores. Plus the humidity is rather low.

Thats the one thing against Southern Ontario, the humidity can be pretty bad(especially if you've never really experienced humidity) in the summers because of the lakes.