Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD...the format war is about over...

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The problem with that is what is going to happen to the world's landfills. How many tvs will be properly recycled if all? That is what I think is most copulate up about the high definition technology progression.
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Post by joevennix »

gamer2 wrote:its impossible


the 360 is owned by Microsoft
Blu-ray was invented by Sony

Sony and Microsoft are rivals. It would be like having Halo on the Wii.
Yeah, but the HD-DVD 360 drive is just a regular IDE drive with a proprietary cable. There is no doubt in my mind that at least some kind of 3rd party add-on will feature Blu-Ray (although M$ will most likely write a firmware fix to keep it from happening, like what happened with xbox-linux. People will always find ways around it, of course.)
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gamer2 wrote:Blu-ray was invented by Sony
:? Is that a figure of speech? Or are you serious?
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Actually, it wasn't 'invented' by Sony, it was more or less derived or backed up by Sony :P
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[quote="Sparkfist"]
The biggest flaws with LD was it's size and the fact it scratched easily. Back when they were released people were not educated enough as to how to take care of a LD, the fact it was easily scratched likely made it so that the average consumer would stop buying it thinking it's too fagile. The size things is obvious, the damn thing is bigger then a vinal record and those things were pretty big. So at the time was it really work it unless you were as Jones put into high quality video? No.[/quote]

Funny thing is, the middle school I attended four years ago had a few LaserDiscs that we watched in my Social Studies classes, and I thought they were relatively new. Boy was I wrong.
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Post by benheck »

An Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive can be plugged into and used on an XP computer.

That said, HD-DVD has the better codec (probably cuz it's smaller sized) while Blu-Ray has MUCH more space. While I think Blu-Ray will "win", it's not about becoming "the next DVD" so much as it is becoming the next niche videophile format, that is, the next laserdisc.

Average people, who have no problem with crappy MP3's, crappy digitial cable, crappy [insert compressed media here] are fine with DVD's. They don't care about the video quality so much as not having to rewind it.

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well said
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To be honest with you, I think it's a draw...

There are readers now that supports both drives, so nobody has to have preference over either disc format.

And as I've always said.. The victor will be whichever has it's security hacked first, because that will lead to piracy, which as you know is probably an even bigger industry than Disney DVD.

HD-DVD seems to be winning that because the discs and drives are cheaper.
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Only reason I'd prefer blue-ray over hd-dvd is storage capacity since I'd mainly be using them to backup files once they get cheap enough.
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Post by sammy »

If sony continues to spend huge ammounts of money on advertising they are going to win for sure. Most people don't know about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD yet (let alone HDTV), but that's gonna chance in the coming years.

Also porn is indeed an important factor. I heard ps2 is the best selling console for prisoners, but only cause it can play their Pr0n :lol:

Another thing about the HD-DVD and Blu-ray capacity difference... That might change. The current generation of dvd's and cd roms also hold more data then the old ones. As soon as whoever makes these things finds out how to do it they will! And then the difference will get noticeably smaller.
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Triton wrote:there really was no dvd format war tho due to the fact that there were no real competing formats, vhs was on the way out. vhs won the vhs/beta war for one reason

PORN! no joke, sony wouldnt let them have porn on beta so vhs kicked their ass even tho beta was better quality.

i for one think hd-dvd has the advantage due to costing less (cheapest BD player is 500$ ps3 cheapes HDdvd is the one for the xbox 360 which with the core package is also 500$ total. plus can be used in PCs as well, with some hacking. also its easier to make red laser diodes than the blue ones
Tis indeed true (well not the only reason)

People dont often include those sort of sales figures in spreadsheets but it is quite a substanshal proportion of sales


Personally i think its way to early t otell, as people have alreayd said the "move" wont happen until the majority of people have HD sets, so in a few years.

Even still i think it'll be a draw of sorts, maybe with one more dominant but i odnt think either will "die out" because both sides have vested too much into them

So sony wont be quite as willing to drop blu-ray as they did UMD if it starts to falter
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Post by DK »

I think that Blu Ray will fail because it's made by Sony, Lets look at the history;

Betamax vs Vhs: Betamax failed
Minidisc vs CD: Minidisc filed
Memory Sick vs other memory cards: Memorysitck failed
UMD vs memory cards: UMD failed

Basically, a sony format has never taken off, so I don't think Blu Ray will take off either. They are just too controlling over their media so people just use the other formats, and they're more expensive.
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Post by grahf »

DK, sony was behind the original Compact Disc. The minidisc vs CD doesnt really count. But otherwise, i agree.
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UMD's aren't a storage medium. They're a read-only memory. How can you compare them to memory cards?
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Post by DK »

I compared UMD to memory cards as the PSP uses UMD's and other hand held consoles use emory cards like the DS and GP2X
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