Christmas is Dying

MilkMonster · Post by **MilkMonster** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:18 pm

Not at all. Im half jewish and my dad and my sister celebrate christmas. And me and my mom celebrate chanukah. Actually Im beside the christmas tree right now. which is right beside of the menorah, the candle.

@ skyone: there are many ways to spell chanukah

Chanuka
Chanukah
Chanukkah
Channukah
Hanukah
Hannukah
Hanukkah
Hanuka
Hanukka
Hanaka
Haneka
Hanika
Khanukkah

chanukah is the most popular.

Post by **Skyone** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:33 pm

I know the way to spell Chanukah, but Hanika?

MilkMonster · Post by **MilkMonster** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:37 pm

its because there is no exact hebrew to english translation so basicly its however you think it sounds like.

Post by **Skyone** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:40 pm

Mazel Tov!

Nicholai · Post by **Nicholai** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:38 pm

Last year I was confronted in my local mall for calling it a Christmas Tree.
A lady ('round her mid-20's) said that there's strict rules against calling it a Christmas tree. Appearently all the holidays are considered the same, but the ironic part is, didn't America fight and sacrifice thousand's of men to gain religous freedom from England? Why does the "man" try to confenscate one of the reasons our country conceived?

Personally I believe, businesses try to squeeze every penny they can. And offending one customer just means that much less money for them, even if it goes against THEIR principles.

Post by **Skyone** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:34 am

Wow. Duh, it's called CHRISTMAS TREE. Though it is sad when you punch in holiday tree in Google Images.

totokan · Post by **totokan** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:51 am

you know, arund 33% of the world's religions is just christians, which makes it the biggest in the world.

alight1992 · Post by **alight1992** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:19 pm

gamer2 wrote:I got this email today about this guys story

Some Guy wrote:I'm on a "Merry Christmas" mission and I'm at full throttle. My little yellow VW Beetle has turned into a Christmas billboard with Merry Christmas written across the back window. Yes, I've decided to trek off to work everyday on the public highways with a message that seems to offend people. At stop lights, I even turn my music up a little louder, and to top it off, I sing along with it. Don't I know that stopping at a red light to roll my windows down only to share the joy of Christmas carols on public streets is a No-No? Don't I fear the Christmas Gestapo and those who would have me remove the written message from my car?

I'm sorry folks, but the only person I'm concerned about "offending" during this Christmas season is the Lord himself. LEAVE THAT MANGER ALONE! We've allowed the Baby Jesus to be kicked out of His lowly manger, and those offended by Christmas are still not happy.

I refuse to let this happen. I'm going to do my part to make sure "Merry Christmas" doesn't become extinct. Because like it or not, if the believers in Christmas don't take a stand now, it's gone forever. Listen folks, the Christian community has been underestimated before; we will have to show ourselves again.

I walked into a Wendy's Restaurant the other day and was rather exuberant with my "Merry Christmas" greeting to the manager. He didn't have much of a response and I said, "Where's your Christmas spirit?" He said, "We're not allowed to use the words "Merry Christmas" when greeting customers. We can only say "Happy Holiday." This morning I grabbed a quick breakfast at a Whataburger Restaurant. I noticed there wasn't a single decoration in the store. I asked the manager why they weren't decorated for Christmas. He told me the corporate headquarters decided not to send any decorations to any of their stores, and he didn't know why.

After I heard about all the Macy's and Federated Stores taking down their Merry Christmas signs, the Target stores not allowing the Salvation Army to "Ring the Christmas bells," and the many incidents of children, choirs, and bands not allowed to play or sing Christmas carols, I realized it was happening right here in my own little Texas town.

How can this be? Not Texas!

We do, however, have a store, Hobby Lobby, that plays nothing but Christmas carols during the season. On Christmas Day they run a full page ad in our local newspaper. That ad is not to promote the store, but uses the entire page to tell the story of Jesus' birth. Now that's taking a stand. We need to thank them.

When I saw a news report the other evening of children being taught new words to a song we've sung for years - "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" - I was saddened to hear "We Wish You a Splendid Holiday." I know now that it's just a matter of time that the "Merry Christmas" greetings will be gone. Look around your town. Notice the "Holiday" greetings and not "Christmas." It's happening right before our very eyes.

Start singing the songs; go down the streets of America singing to your heart's content. Get some of those wash-off markers that these kids use to write on their car windows when they're rooting for their hometown football team. It's easy to do, and if a torrential rain washes it off, write it on there again.

We've got to get this message out. "Go Tell It On the Mountain . . . that Jesus Christ is Born." Sing it, speak it, be a billboard for our Lord.

The story of this "Baby Jesus" alone has brought about more goodwill at this time of year than any other day we celebrate. How can we sit back and allow Him to be snuffed out of our lives? Is it Jesus, or is it His followers that the "offended" don't like? What kind of revulsion galvanizes one to campaign so vehemently against the mere mention of His name, the mere singing of a carol, or the mere visual of a sign that says "Merry Christmas?"

I can listen to my own boss at work use some of the vilest words and follow up with, "Excuse my French." I may cringe inside at his damning of God's name, but I tolerate it. So if you don't like me wishing you a "Merry Christmas," I'll say, "Excuse my joy." You may cringe that I celebrate the birth of Jesus, but just tolerate it.

I cannot be concerned that "Merry Christmas" offends you. If I'm not careful, the day will come when saying I'm a Christian will offend you.

I'm offended that you're offended. How about that?

When we get to a point that we can no longer take part in a tradition we hold dear, we have no choice; we either defend that tradition or we give it up to those who say NO. That's it . . . period. So, which will it be? I'm not giving up my "Merry Christmas" joy to anyone. If I know of someone that celebrates another holiday during this time of year, I will be glad to wish them whatever holiday they want. Just tell me what it is and I'll shout it to the world and wish you a grand celebration. Just give me Christmas.

To you merchants: Stop being so hypocritical and "filling your tills" on the back of Jesus! Who do you think is the symbol of giving at this time of year? It was the wise men bringing gifts to the newborn Christ-child. You want your coffers full, but have ordered your employees to take down all the Merry Christmas signs. If that's the case, I'll buy gifts at a place that understands my joy. If you're worried about offending someone, you just did. The most recent Newsweek survey shows that 82% of Americans believe that Jesus is the Son of God. So, in trying not to offend a few, you've offended many.

It's okay to jump into the "Merry Christmas" spirit when it fills your cash register, but let's call it something else . . . and don't stop giving . . . and don't stop buying. . . we'll just change the name and you'll never know the difference.

I know the difference and I'm feeling it greatly. It's hard not to be aware that townships across our country have actually banned the singing of Christmas carols because it might offend someone. And it's not just the religious songs; it's the secular ones too. No more "Jingle Bells" or "Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer" because they're associated with Christmas. Boy, aren't we getting sensitive?

If we're not celebrating Christmas for the hope it gives with the birth of our Savior . . . there is no hope!

I noticed a few years ago that we changed the name of Abraham Lincoln's and George Washington's birthday so as to be all inclusive regarding the Presidents. Hark, if we should recognize anyone as exceptional. Now it's called Presidents' Day. Well, if we're going to be so all inclusive, next month I'll have to refer to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day as Civil Rights Leaders' Day. We don't want to exclude great Americans like Rosa Parks or Cesar Chavez, do we? And to think that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton might be left out.

We might need to change Mother's Day, Father's Day, and Grandparents' Day to All Parents' Day. Just lump them all together.

It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? So what's the difference?

My freedom to celebrate Christmas in the tradition of the Christian religion is as much my right as it is your right to be offended by it. So what are we going to do? Did anyone hear me . . . what are we going to do? Do we defend a person's right to go forward with a time tested tradition (how about 2000 years?), or do we defend a person's right to end it all because they're offended? As long as we live in this great land and have the freedom to express ourselves and what we believe in, we will always offend someone.

If we try to make everything right for everyone, we won't have anything for anyone.

May you always have Christmas in your heart!
The Guy has a point, The Holidays should not be bunched up, this is showing how crazy people have goten with PC, its plain stupid
We Wish You a Splendid Holiday, Stop this PCness

and Yell

Merry Christmas

YOU ARE SO WRONG

gamer2 · Post by **gamer2** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:38 pm

Well it isnt Jews mainly being offended, it is the arabs. but we are loosing our christmas trees, to Holiday Trees, to make it fair Jews should change the Monorah to "Holiday Candle Stick Holder to the power of 8" and the Arabs should.....what do the arabs use to celebrate Kwanza

Just so you know, Im not anti-semetic, i have a few Jewish Friends that are on my path of thinking (changing names of things) they think it isnt fair eather

vb_master · Post by **vb_master** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:49 pm

alight1992 wrote:YOU ARE SO WRONG

YOU ARE COMPLETELY MORE WRONG

Post by **bicostp** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:43 pm

vb_master wrote:
alight1992 wrote:YOU ARE SO WRONG
YOU ARE COMPLETELY MORE WRONG

I AGREE!

GIVE SUPPORTING DETAILS!

AND TURN OFF caps lock!

MilkMonster · Post by **MilkMonster** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:59 pm

gamer2 wrote: Arabs should.....what do the arabs use to celebrate Kwanza

Arabs dont celebrate kwanza, its an african holiday.

gamer2 · Post by **gamer2** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:01 pm

well Islam is wide spread in northern Africa and The Middle East

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:04 pm

Its the goddamned (no pun intended) Jahova's Witnesses. Whatever their scriptures say, up at the top must be the words "Thou shalt complain."

daleighan · Post by **daleighan** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:11 pm

Merry Christmahanakwanzaka (is that how you spell it?)
By the way, I'm mostly jewish, but my family is nonpracticing. We celebrate Christmas, so Merry Christmas!