PS2 portable system

[Gordon1]

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As for the OP,

This is your first project and you've set an unrealistic goal. Normally, this would not be a reason to flame you, we'd tell you it's impossible, and you'd set a more realistic goal, OR provide some evidence/concepts that prove you might be able to do it. You have done neither, you insisted it was possible without specifying how, it comes off as uninformed, impolite and ignorant.

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways? How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

You are such an ass hole. piss off, your not wanted here!

[Tibia]

Oh god, I can't stop laughing. Just because you can imagine it doesn't make it possible. I can imagine a PS2 implanted in my brain so that when I close my eyes I can play it, but that doesn't mean it's even remotely possible.

You can't even type a complete sentence that's understandable. Good luck redesigning a console. I think you'll really need it.

[themadhacker]

@lburna95- If you tried to redesign the ps2 board to fit in a ps2 shell, you would spend an insane amount of money on it. Instead, maybe you could vac-form a bigger case that looks similar to that of a psp. Then put a ps2 portable in that? It woul be much more resonable to do that.

[gamefreakfatty]

I still don't understand why you think I have to cram everything together? Look I'm not a complete moron if that is what you think.The system is going to be designed completely different.I've already mentioned this awhile ago the PS2 slim mobo is not going to be used,and even when your mind is set on a slim PS2 mobo being the smallest thing ever created it can be created even smaller.You know what I think and this is just a guess,but you probably think I'm trying to squeeze the same design into something smaller.I plan on recreating my own design and building it from scratch.Honestly I think you take me for an idiot Valium,and this is the very first form of electronics I've messed with.I might be considered a newbie on here by my post count and you might see me that way,but my knowledge on electronics is very strong.Sorry buddy,but keep doubting this project as it gives me more motivation.

You've contradicted yourself here. Why should any of us believe you when you can't even type a statement that makes sense? You said that it is the very first form of electronics you've messed with. This proves part of my first post in this thread:

You said that this will be your first electronic project, yet you claim to be very skilled in the field.

Sorry Valium I'm not going to explain everything to you,and the fact is you would still say it can't be done even if I did.Your mind is set on the PS2 slim mobo,and that is not what I'm working on.The 95 in my username is just a number which doesn't mean anything.I was born in 84 and the reason I used that quote is because you all are going off what you know.I've seen all the revisions of the PS2 motherboards from PS2 fat systems to PS2 slims,and it won't use anything like it.The way its looking I don't want your help or need it,as I'm capable of doing it on my own.On another note I'm wasting my time even talking on here,because not even one of you besides 64M320N3 and Electric Rain has even offered any help.

You have given him no reason to say it can be done. Give us a description of how you're going to do it. You don't need to be specific. We just want to know what route you're planning on taking for this. Are you going to use different chips with your PCB? Are you going to use actual PS2 (fat or slim) chips with your PCB? We don't need anything big, just an idea of how you plan to accomplish this task.

Sorry Valium I'm not going to explain everything to you,and the fact is you would still say it can't be done even if I did.Your mind is set on the PS2 slim mobo,and that is not what I'm working on.The 95 in my username is just a number which doesn't mean anything.I was born in 84 and the reason I used that quote is because you all are going off what you know.I've seen all the revisions of the PS2 motherboards from PS2 fat systems to PS2 slims,and it won't use anything like it.The way its looking I don't want your help or need it,as I'm capable of doing it on my own.On another note I'm wasting my time even talking on here,because not even one of you besides 64M320N3 and Electric Rain has even offered any help.

How do you plan on accomplishing anything if you don't plan on using anything from an actual PS2? You did say that emulation is not the route you are headed:

Sony can build it,but they can save money by building a psp which is a half ass system for half the price that it would cost to actually build a PS2 that is portable.Its fact the psp can't even run all PS1 games,which clearly shows emulation is not the solution.If it means saving money any major corporation will do it.Sony stripped the PS2 fat version to make the PS2 slim model,which in my opinion isn't great either.The PS3 has fallen into this category as well with the PS2 enigma chip stripped.If you notice the early PS3 60GB models and 20GB models are the only two systems they made that can run PS2 games without emulation.They sell 80GB systems now which use emulation and I think 40GB models.

Sorry man I'm not going to tell you how because for one you clearly show no respect to newcomers and second your mind is set on the design Sony has already created.Therefore there is no point in explaining what can and can't be done to you as you can't get past Sony's work.Do what you do best and pay for Sony products.I don't have to show you anything,which brings the question who the hell do you think you are? So in other words let me get this straight this is a portable game system site,and you think talking about making a portable system is ridiculous? Oh ok then let me get this straight then where is a site that accepts people creating portable game systems,because this clearly isn't what I expect.Please man your bought off on Sony work,of course you believe it can't be done.

Sorry Valium I'm not going to explain everything to you,and the fact is you would still say it can't be done even if I did.Your mind is set on the PS2 slim mobo,and that is not what I'm working on.The 95 in my username is just a number which doesn't mean anything.I was born in 84 and the reason I used that quote is because you all are going off what you know.I've seen all the revisions of the PS2 motherboards from PS2 fat systems to PS2 slims,and it won't use anything like it.The way its looking I don't want your help or need it,as I'm capable of doing it on my own.On another note I'm wasting my time even talking on here,because not even one of you besides 64M320N3 and Electric Rain has even offered any help.

Did you not come here for help figuring out where to find a good PCB manufacturer, Mr. Arrogant?

Well if you treat your members like this I'm suprised they stay to begin with.It doesn't take much to be a jackass,which is clearly the case here.I agree its funny how quick you jump on the flaming bandwagon.I can guarantee you won't hear from me again its not hard to leave this site at all.Haha lol haters just because you can't get the job done don't hate,and if you can what is stopping you.

Are you serious? No one here was flaming you or badmouthing you in any way until you came up and got pissed because we told you that your idea was unrealistic, which it is.

Well if you treat your members like this I'm suprised they stay to begin with.It doesn't take much to be a jackass,which is clearly the case here.I agree its funny how quick you jump on the flaming bandwagon.I can guarantee you won't hear from me again its not hard to leave this site at all.Haha lol haters just because you can't get the job done don't hate,and if you can what is stopping you.

If you're any good at keeping your word, then do it! Please! If it's such a pain for you to be here, then go. There is nothing forcing you to come back, and honestly, I don't think any of us want you here if you can't show some sign of intelligence or proof in your arguments.

Sony can build it,but they can save money by building a psp which is a half ass system for half the price that it would cost to actually build a PS2 that is portable.Its fact the psp can't even run all PS1 games,which clearly shows emulation is not the solution.If it means saving money any major corporation will do it.Sony stripped the PS2 fat version to make the PS2 slim model,which in my opinion isn't great either.The PS3 has fallen into this category as well with the PS2 enigma chip stripped.If you notice the early PS3 60GB models and 20GB models are the only two systems they made that can run PS2 games without emulation.They sell 80GB systems now which use emulation and I think 40GB models.

Sorry man I'm not going to tell you how because for one you clearly show no respect to newcomers and second your mind is set on the design Sony has already created.Therefore there is no point in explaining what can and can't be done to you as you can't get past Sony's work.Do what you do best and pay for Sony products.I don't have to show you anything,which brings the question who the hell do you think you are? So in other words let me get this straight this is a portable game system site,and you think talking about making a portable system is ridiculous? Oh ok then let me get this straight then where is a site that accepts people creating portable game systems,because this clearly isn't what I expect.Please man your bought off on Sony work,of course you believe it can't be done.

The context of that sentence makes it sound like you steal or pirate Sony's products? Go away.

Sony can build it,but they can save money by building a psp which is a half ass system for half the price that it would cost to actually build a PS2 that is portable.Its fact the psp can't even run all PS1 games,which clearly shows emulation is not the solution.If it means saving money any major corporation will do it.Sony stripped the PS2 fat version to make the PS2 slim model,which in my opinion isn't great either.The PS3 has fallen into this category as well with the PS2 enigma chip stripped.If you notice the early PS3 60GB models and 20GB models are the only two systems they made that can run PS2 games without emulation.They sell 80GB systems now which use emulation and I think 40GB models.

Sorry man I'm not going to tell you how because for one you clearly show no respect to newcomers and second your mind is set on the design Sony has already created.Therefore there is no point in explaining what can and can't be done to you as you can't get past Sony's work.Do what you do best and pay for Sony products.I don't have to show you anything,which brings the question who the hell do you think you are? So in other words let me get this straight this is a portable game system site,and you think talking about making a portable system is ridiculous?Oh ok then let me get this straight then where is a site that accepts people creating portable game systems,because this clearly isn't what I expect.Please man your bought off on Sony work,of course you believe it can't be done.

He is one of the more known and wise members on this forum. We don't think that talking about making a portable system is ridiculous, we just think that the way you're acting and how stubborn you're being is ridiculous.

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways? How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

You haven't told us how you plan on doing it, therefore there is nothing for us to try out.

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways? How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

Those two sentences aren't contradicting at all! That was sarcasm just in case you couldn't tell...

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways? How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

Then tell us, oh wise one, since none of us seem to be able to grasp the concept that it is, in fact, a realistic idea.

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways? How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

That's obvious from what you've been saying.

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways?How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

You never said anything about it being your first portable project. You said it was your first electronic project, ever.

I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody else,if you want proof then try it out for yourself.Your mind is already made up that it can't be done,and there is nothing that can change your mind unless Sony does it for you.I'm not in this to gain respect and I really don't care what you think.My first post was asking for a pcb manufacturer,and if that was too much to ask then forget it.I'm capable of getting the job done on my own,and it doesn't bother me at all.The goal I set is realistic there is nothing unrealistic about it.PS2 systems exist and the board can be redesigned smaller its a given.The design I use will be different,but in order to fit it in such a small space it has to be redesigned.There is no work around for it a pcb will have to be built from the ground up.I don't think anyone could take the boards used in PS2 systems at the moment and cram them into the size of a psp.I will admit that is probably the only thing I agree with you and everybody else on,which is why my original post asked what is a good pcb manufacturer.It hasn't been proven to me or anybody else that it can't be done,and looking at Sony's designs doesn't cut it sorry Valium.I've seen them already,and I'm not all that impressed with them.First portable project Kyo I'm not new to electronics by any means,besides why would you want to use a prebuilt design anyways? How much do you learn from taking a system and cramming it into a case.I highly doubt you learn much from cramming prebuilt systems into cases.By designing the system you not only know how it works,but you can improve it.

Yes, because you designed the PS2, not Sony. Is that correct?


Did anyone else notice how easy it is to use his own posts against him?

P.S.
Sorry for using so many quotes. It was the easiest way for me to get the point through and make it easy for people to know where the responses are referencing from, especially if he edits his posts.

-gamefreakfatty

[palmertech]

@op: did you even read my post earlier? Do you want help or not? Let me know.

[lburna95]

I must be doing something right if this is the sites main attraction.I'm guessing your worried I might actually accomplish the impossible.If its impossible then why do you all insist on wasting your time reading and responding to everything I write.Hopefully you all can get a grip with reality,and maybe do something to make yourself better instead of living off a forum.If what I say is so tragic you gotta eat,sleep,and breathe off this forum then something is wrong with you.You would be doing this site and everybody else a big favor by closing it or letting it die,not responding to it which won't amount to crap.I think voice of reason or common sense should tell you all that,but the truth is somebody has to get the last word in or they are not satisfied.I will give you all that chance right now say what you gotta say,because I'm done with this site and have been for a long time.Its only a matter of time until you bore yourself posting to a thread that amounts to nothing.

[Tibia]

I keep reading because I don't have cable and you're entertaining as hell. If you're truly "done with this site and have been for a long time", why do you keep coming back and replying? I'm glad you do, it's entertaining, but you really are contradicting yourself.

[palmertech]

Dude... I just offered schematics AGAIN. Do you want them, or not? Are you going to ignore people who want to help you in addition to flamers?

[Neildo_64]

I keep reading because I don't have cable and you're entertaining as hell. If you're truly "done with this site and have been for a long time", why do you keep coming back and replying? I'm glad you do, it's entertaining, but you really are contradicting yourself.

Agreed. It's like watching a crappy TV show, only with just text, and somehow it just happens to be real people.

[Kyo]

Dude... I just offered schematics AGAIN. Do you want them, or not? Are you going to ignore people who want to help you in addition to flamers?

So much for crediblity. He's probably just a troll or an idiot.


I believe the PS2 can be made smaller with a redesign, I don't believe it can be fit in a PSP complete with screen batteries and controls. I don't believe this is a good project to take as a first one (it is your first one, you said so yourself.)

But by all means, prove us wrong. I'd gladly apologize and applaud to your success if you could do this, probably even if you can't quite fit it in a PSP. I think I speak for all of us when I say we'd like you to succeed, but we are sure you won't.

You've turned down the people that offered help and instead chose to focus on those who criticized you, and you're not being very mature about it otherwise. Go ahead, build that portable, prove us wrong.

[techknott]

Ive been reading, but i really hate getting involved in flame wars. But dude, you really are pathetic.

Seriously, you've been offered help, schematics(which i can provide too) and an incentive to shut a few mouths. But, all we get is the old classic, 'well if you dont believe me im never coming back ever again'. Do you know how childish and pathetic that sounds.

Also, your not gonna get this project off the ground using any old PCB manufacturer are you? The PSP already uses a 6 layer PCB, so I would imagine the PS2 would be there abouts too(£££££££££££££££££££). Also, if you merely just desoldered the components fromthe ps2 board, they'd still struggle for room, not to mention heat, batteries(about 2 amps), controller, lcd driver,etc.

Seriously, grow up.

[bacteria]

Let's ignore him. Perhaps he will go away as he says he will ...

For someone who says he doesn't care what people think or want their respect; he is sure taking things personally ...

[timewarp]

Come on guys, don't feed the troll.

[ShockSlayer]

You are such an ass hole. piss off, your not wanted here!

You have no idea how much I'm smiling right now! We agree on something!

SS

[Black Six]

Come on guys, don't feed the troll.

Agreed.
Closerized.