WTF

[Indigno]

Any kid who dies from playing tag or using the swing set (and it's in good repair) obviously doesn't belong in the gene pool. I'm so sick of paranoid parenting. Remeber the "three second rule"? Now it's the "sanitize your hands with the bottle of hand sanitizer every time you touch something rule". There is nothing that irritates me more than people who carry bottles of hand sanitizer around. If you don't get sick when you're young, your adult hood will suck.

Kids are becoming very sheltered. They are being taught that if someone starts beating on you, you should either run away and tell or curl up ino a ball. Those are both incorrect. The correct answer is stand up for yourself, fight back. They are being taught that fighting back is just as wrong as starting it. If someone hits you, you're the victim. Not them.

And I have noticed that a lot of playground equipment that I remember is being phased out because it is unsafe. I see big metal slides, wooden equipment, gravel, sand, merry go rounds, teeter toters, etc being phased out because it is unsafe. I have never, ever heard of a kid, that was old enough to be using one, getting killed on a merry go round. I've been flung off of those things loads of times, and gotten scratched, cut, and scuffed all over. But that's part of the fun.

I know I'm ranting, but it all comes back to paranoia. I hate it. Some people just need to chill out.

Oh, and back to the games, they really shouldn't be there, but it would be hypocritical for me to say there needs fo be a crackdown. I don't usually bring a game to school, but I have brought good old tetris along for the ride on a day I knew would be slow.

[Metroid fan]

Wow totally agree with that indigno I hate it when my parents make me sheltered and that kind of stuff, I love to have fun and get scuffed scratched and bruised.

[Indigno]

I'd like to note that my parents aren't like that. The other day I decided to see if our inflatable raft would work in our flooded backyard. My dad told me to, and my mom said Don't track mud into the house.

Plus, when I was a kid, I practically lived in my back yard, where I rolled around with a dog, ate wormy apples off the ground, got scratched to hell in our rasberry bush, and dug in the dirt all day. I never get sick. While other people are going out with whatever is "going around" I just have a sore throat.

[JAY]

17. Electronic Devices (non-academic) and Recreational Equipment: The use of radios, CD/tape players, pagers, cellular phones, skateboards, televisions, roller blades, scooters, etc. is not permitted during school unless required for a class activity. The school assumes no responsibility for the security of these items. These items will be confiscated by school staff and returned at the discretion of the administration.

It's worked since elementary school, and as long as it's not being used during class (or passing time), it's within the rules. Lunch isn't treated as a class, and we are therefore allowed to use such devices during lunch (except the transportation equipment). Since the school isn't responsible, and it is clearly stated, there have been zero parental complaints.

The literal interpretation of that rule, seeing that it says "during school", means from the beginning of school until the end of school. Since lunchtime falls between those two times, it is technically included. Whether it is enforced or not is entirely up to the faculty. If lunch was considered not "during school", then you would also not be subject to other school-time rules during this time, only those also defined for beyond school hours. But I doubt that this is true.

Also, are there even any incidents to complain about? While the school may be able to avoid responsibility, it still does not hold for the children involved with an incident.

But the law being introduced by this elementary school is ideally the same, as it wants to avoid any further complications.

What the real issue is (which is being sidestepped by the ban of electronics), is bad parenting. Instead of punishing the kids for having no discretion and bringing their expensive electronics to school, the PARENTS should be punished for treating it as acceptable. Once the students are in middle/high school, and more easily able to make choices for themselves, the punishments would be for the students.

I get really tired of the "bad parenting" excuses. Little kids can still lie, even when their parents tell them not to. I don't think you realize how easy it is for a child to smuggle in something as small as a game boy into school without the parents knowing. You're assuming that all of the parents are allowing their children to bring such items to school. The "better parenting" argument, especially when coming from those still living with their parents, is an obvious double standard, since we all know how most kids will react when their parents start searching their rooms and want an itinerary for every outing that they go on.

Kids are becoming very sheltered. They are being taught that if someone starts beating on you, you should either run away and tell or curl up ino a ball. Those are both incorrect. The correct answer is stand up for yourself, fight back. They are being taught that fighting back is just as wrong as starting it. If someone hits you, you're the victim. Not them.

Not every kindergartener would be able to fend off a fourth grader successfully. I once tried to stop a bully from picking on me by trying to fight back. He then repeatedly banged my head into the blacktop, and I got a concussion in the process. Great decision, huh?

[Indigno]

All telling will do is annoy the principal, get all the kids mad at the rat, and make them hate you all the more. If you prove to be a pain in the ass who fights back, he will go off for a weaker kid. And don't lecture me on fighting someone bigger than you. I skipped in the middle of 1st grade into 2nd, and spent most of elementary school fighting kids bigger than me. It's much better to stand up for yourself than run. The only time running is acceptable is when there is a good chance you will leave with serious physical injuries (like broken/ severed limbs, loss of organs, losing an eye, getting stabbed or shot) or death. Of course, it is always preferrable to steer clear of a fight, but some are unavoidable.

[JAY]

All telling will do is annoy the principal, get all the kids mad at the rat, and make them hate you all the more.

You shouldn't apply universals to human behavior, because just one instance of it occuring otherwise will invalidate the statement. I have witnessed incidents where reporting the problem gets the kid suspended or expelled.

If you prove to be a pain in the ass who fights back, he will go off for a weaker kid.

Oh great, then it's some other kid's problem. And since he's weaker, he has an even smaller chance of actually putting up a fight. Eventually, the bully would find the kid who, despite his efforts, can barely put up a fight at all. Unless the bully has an epiphany, that kid will never be a big enough "pain in the ass" to cause the bully to move on. In such a case, fighting back would be useless.

Of course, it is always preferrable to steer clear of a fight, but some are unavoidable.

This I agree with. You should have said this in the first place, since you initially make the claim that the best/only option is to fight, which obviously isn't always the case.

[Extreme_Jesus]

man when i was that age no one even had electronic things to bring in, well a few peopel had gameboy colours but they wernt stupid enough to bring them in

as for a "playground" we had a concrete floor the size of three tennis courts, and a soccer ball the size of my fist, and only half of that space could be used for a ball games. for soccer we had one goal, 40 players and one ball.

in secondary school it was even smaller (no actual area, just gaps in the buildings) so we made our own fun, ussally involved lots of violence, thats inner city schools for ya

i exagerate the last slightly but we didnt usually go a month without a major bust up between rival groups, we even had riot police called to our school once (cos another school had turned up looking for a fight)

riot spectating is the best thing ever

[SavageLych]

riot spectating is the best thing ever

Anyone else think of cops beating hippies ?
Funny how hippies wanted peace, but had violent protests.....