E3!!!

Chapel · Post by **Chapel** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:41 pm

Wow, I didn't realize that was the new Dashboard. I thought it was just how they were presenting to the press conference.

Hmm... it seems to be the PS3 rotated 90 degrees in function and the Wii in form. Why would MS give up on something that was working so well in favor of imitating inferior competators (speaking in terms of software sales, not personal tastes.)

vskid · Post by **vskid** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:02 pm

Triton wrote:people *coughBENcough* keep complaining about how the wii will harm gaming in the long run and crap like that, i agree to an extent but it ISNT the wiis fault that the 3rd party developers like to make crap shovelware games to cash in on the wiis popularity instead of making more good quality games that live up to the wiis potential.

I agree. I've played a bit of Super Mario Galaxy, and I thought it was pretty fun. The game made pretty good use of motion controls, and you were allowed to use normal controls for stuff like movement. A game I've played that made bad use of motions controls was NFS: Prostreet. I found it hard to steer with the motion controls (and shift while drag racing), and acceleration with a digital button? Thats so 2 gens ago.
Really, its mainly the 3rd party developers that are digging the hole. Most of the first (or close to first) party games for all systems have been fairly decent, not so with the 3rd party (especially on the Wii, since it lends itself to easy shovelware).

Jongamer · Post by **Jongamer** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:09 pm

ghosstt wrote:Well, closed door E3 conference with nintendo, and some good stuff came! Pikmin 3 confirmed for Wii! And Conduit with 16 player online with voice chat!

Yeah I saw that about Pikmin 3, but I didn't see the thing on Conduit with Online play and Voice chat.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:02 am

Jongamer wrote:
ghosstt wrote:Well, closed door E3 conference with nintendo, and some good stuff came! Pikmin 3 confirmed for Wii! And Conduit with 16 player online with voice chat!
Yeah I saw that about Pikmin 3, but I didn't see the thing on Conduit with Online play and Voice chat.

GoNintendo has a ton of great videos and a long article on their impressions, all of which are extremely positive. You should check it out if you're interested in the game!

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:27 am

CronoTriggerfan wrote:
LoyalistRevolt wrote:
CronoTriggerfan wrote:
Rekarp wrote:Video game crash 2009

I actually think it will happen. It can only expand so much till the bubble pops.
Yeah, the multi-billion dollar industry is just going to die. Totally feasible.
Yea because no other industry in history has crashed
Companies, sure. Mainstream industries? Few to nil, buddy.

Oil crashed in the 30's and 70's. The housing industry is pretty much smashed at the moment. Anything can happen in a free market

totokan · Post by **totokan** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:10 am

The Railroad industry crashed, so did the dotcom industry, both after an immensely growing bubble

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:18 am

The Railroad industry crashed, so did the dotcom industry, both after an immensely growing bubble Smile

I forgot about those.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:29 am

Those industries have went through some hard times, but none of them have gone away as some people are insinuating.

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:52 am

CronoTriggerfan wrote:Those industries have went through some hard times, but none of them have gone away as some people are insinuating.

No one said gaming will disappear. Even in the crash of 83' there was still video games.

grossaffe · Post by **grossaffe** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:09 am

If anything would lead to a gaming market crash, it would be the overpricing of game systems and their games. $60 for a round piece of plastic is a bit ridiculous. So I think, if there is a crash, it'll be a consumer backlash at the rising cost of the industry.
High budget movies cost $20 on DVD, why can't games?

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:24 am

grossaffe wrote:If anything would lead to a gaming market crash, it would be the overpricing of game systems and their games. $60 for a round piece of plastic is a bit ridiculous. So I think, if there is a crash, it'll be a consumer backlash at the rising cost of the industry.
High budget movies cost $20 on DVD, why can't games?

cause the movie makes all the money back in the theater where as a game only makes money in sales of the game.

grossaffe · Post by **grossaffe** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:21 pm

Rekarp wrote:
grossaffe wrote:If anything would lead to a gaming market crash, it would be the overpricing of game systems and their games. $60 for a round piece of plastic is a bit ridiculous. So I think, if there is a crash, it'll be a consumer backlash at the rising cost of the industry.
High budget movies cost $20 on DVD, why can't games?
cause the movie makes all the money back in the theater where as a game only makes money in sales of the game.

good point, but they're still overpriced. Its a real problem when crappy games cost you the same amount as really good ones. sure, every now and then a game will cost $10 less than average, but too many crappy games cost way too much.

I'm pretty cheap, so I'm not gonna spend $50 on a game unless I know its gonna be good (usually, i've been burned a couple times when I let myself buy into the hype). I think games that are entertaining but not worthy of the title "Great" should be cheaper than others. I may have considered buying No More Heroes if it didn't cost so much or if it had a less cartoony art-style.

Negative_Creep · Post by **Negative_Creep** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:37 pm

Crap games end up in a Sale basket soon enough

Haze and Alone in the Dark are already dirt cheap

LoyalistRevolt · Post by **LoyalistRevolt** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:02 pm

I love how the gaming media gives Nintendo and sony free passes nearly every year but microsoft has to be perfect to even get an ok.

Chapel · Post by **Chapel** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:08 pm

LoyalistRevolt wrote:I love how the gaming media gives Nintendo and sony free passes nearly every year but microsoft has to be perfect to even get an ok.

Didn't anyone tell you? It is uncool to like the following if you are going to work in the news media: Microsoft, George Bush, Police Officers. (Please note, these rules do not apply to FOX News.)

[The

means it is joke. I am not serious about that statement in anyway and do not want this thread to go into some political debate.]