Ben called it. Gamestop to start focusing on casual market.

Negative_Creep · Post by **Negative_Creep** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:03 pm

I don't think the Wii is going to fail too quickly, a lot of people who enjoy their 360's, PS3's, some who even enjoy PC games are picking up the Wii. It has a decent enough libiary to satisify real gamers too.

Post by **bicostp** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:36 pm

This might be an economical move in the short term, but it could come back to bite them. The mass public doesn't care about the industry, they just want to follow the crowd. Remember the big popularity explosions the Atkins diet and Sudoku enjoyed a couple years ago? Well nobody really cares about them anymore, and "casual gaming" [size=0]*shudder*[/size] may very well follow suit.

Negative_Creep wrote:I don't think the Wii is going to fail too quickly, a lot of people who enjoy their 360's, PS3's, some who even enjoy PC games are picking up the Wii. It has a decent enough libiary to satisify real gamers too.

If by :decent enough library" you mean "all the Nintendo franchises again" then yes.

I have not heard of any blockbuster Wii exclusive third-party titles; all people seem to lust over for it are Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros, both of which are just updates to the last version of the game. (And they say EA is bad about sequels...)

Just like the Gamecube before it, Nintendo will chew through their assortment of games in the first couple years, then crap out a few more Mario Party games and ride on 'adequate' third party ports until it's time to roll out the next money printer.

They can only go so far on what is essentially an overclocked Gamecube that doesn't support HD. (Yes, that is a big deal. Everything's going to HD, prices will come down even more, and HD sets will eventually replace all our NTSC units, just like color TVs replaced black and white TVs.)

Negative_Creep · Post by **Negative_Creep** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:38 pm

Well. You put me in my place.

17daysolderthannes · Post by **17daysolderthannes** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:29 pm

myersn024 wrote:I hate to say it, but I wish I'd never purchased my Wii. The new Zelda was fun, but I can't play any of the other games for more than a few minutes. The motion sensing aspect of Zelda was well implemented, but in other games it just gets old really quick. If it wasn't for the virtual console stuff, I'd have gotten rid of it already.

+1, except I don't even like Zelda, so there are ZERO games (besides sports) that I'm interested in. Plus VC is useless because most games are cheaper to buy in tangible cartridge form and then you have the ability to resell it or at least display it. Also, cartridges will last forever if you don't destroy them, once the Wii becomes obsolete and they finally cancel the web service, eventually the games on the Wii will suffer bit rot so you'll just lose them entirely. VC is total crap, those games should never cost more than $5 each.

johnbjuice · Post by **johnbjuice** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:15 pm

I had to preorder Advance Wars: Days of Ruin because they weren't going to buy more copies than were preordered. It's a sad, sad day for gamers everywhere.

- Juice

17daysolderthannes · Post by **17daysolderthannes** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:48 pm

johnbjuice wrote:I had to preorder Advance Wars: Days of Ruin because they weren't going to buy more copies than were preordered. It's a sad, sad day for gamers everywhere.

- Juice

Well, if you think about it, that's probably the best financially speaking. Otherwise, it might sit unpurchased on a shelf for months until a more informed gamer stumbles upon it. Plus, most people "in the know" enough to buy it would probably also know they could get it cheaper online. So, therefore, the only games worth stocking are games hapless soccer moms would want to buy for their ADHD kids.

Dr. KillGood · Post by **Dr. KillGood** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:26 pm

This thread is made of so much win.

Also if I had to predict how long it will be till people start putting their Wii in storage I would say by next summer. People will be bored with Smash Brothers and Mario kart. Unless Nintendo somehow makes some new game that is a HUGE hit, then their money printer is going to run out of ink.

Also on the HD thing, I still do not see myself being able to afford a HD TV by 2010. I bet many other people are like me. Keep in mind I am a idiot.

vskid · Post by **vskid** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:35 pm

Dr. KillGood wrote:Also if I had to predict how long it will be till people start putting their Wii in storage I would say by next summer. People will be bored with Smash Brothers and Mario kart. Unless Nintendo somehow makes some new game that is a HUGE hit, then their money printer is going to run out of ink.

They probably won't be going to storage, its just that SMBB and Mario Kart will be the only things keeping them out of storage/dumpsters.

Dr. KillGood wrote:Also on the HD thing, I still do not see myself being able to afford a HD TV by 2010. I bet many other people are like me. Keep in mind I am a idiot.

You must be planning on either not getting a new TV by then, or you'll have to buy it from a thrift store. SDTVs are pretty rare now, or the price has gone up because theres some new feature that makes no difference. HDTVs are getting cheaper and cheaper. My guess is that the average person buying a TV around 2010 will get an HDTV because its almost as cheap as an SDTV or theres no alternative (aka, SDTV dies). We have a 48" HDTV, but the highest resolution device we have hooked up to it outputs 480p (Halo 2 on a 360 at 1080i is beautiful). I think the main reason stuff looks good (not mind-blowing, just pretty good) is the quality of the TV. My aunt and uncle got a 60" HDTV a year or 2 after we got ours, and I think the picture sucks compared to ours. Might have something to do with their other stuff, though, they spend a ton for a nice TV and have a crappy $20 Black Friday DVD player. So if you have a nice TV, get something nice to feed it.

Negative_Creep · Post by **Negative_Creep** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:24 am

vskid wrote:(Halo 2 on a 360 at 1080i is beautiful)

If you think Halo 2 looks beautiful... try Halo 3

I couldn't believe after playing Halo 3 how easily I noticed the nasty gfx in Halo 2 lol.

Unless your talking about Halo 2 Vista or something.

teraflop122 · Post by **teraflop122** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:37 am

Keep in mind I am a idiot.

Even I can afford an HDTV, and I work at Gamestop

Been looking at some nice 37" LCD TV's for 600-700 bucks, though I'm not sure where I'd put it if I got it.

totokan · Post by **totokan** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:36 pm

Hdtv everywhere is inevitable. Nintendo is currently, in three ways, living only for today. First, there's no HD output, as explained multiple times. Second, also explained multiple times, there are few titles coming out soon that matter. Third, pretty much an offshoot of the second, there's too much of the 'fad factor' to the wii. It's easier to compare to the 'tv games' than the 7th gen consoles.
On a side note, I recently discovered a friend's 60-inch hdtv was connected to his cable box (supposedly hd) via a *gasp* COAX cable! Needless to say, i have informed him of the sin he has committed, and we have since learned the cable box lacks any hd output, and the company was contacted (who 'installed' a replacement box)

theelk · Post by **theelk** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:54 pm

totokan wrote:Hdtv everywhere is inevitable. Nintendo is currently, in three ways, living only for today. First, there's no HD output, as explained multiple times. Second, also explained multiple times, there are few titles coming out soon that matter. Third, pretty much an offshoot of the second, there's too much of the 'fad factor' to the wii. It's easier to compare to the 'tv games' than the 7th gen consoles.
On a side note, I recently discovered a friend's 60-inch hdtv was connected to his cable box (supposedly hd) via a *gasp* COAX cable! Needless to say, i have informed him of the sin he has committed, and we have since learned the cable box lacks any hd output, and the company was contacted (who 'installed' a replacement box)

Um, I'm pretty sure Coax can carry a signal. You just need the TV on the right mode. Although I have my box connected to my awesome Panasonic plasma (best picture period.) via HDMI through our AV receiver.

totokan · Post by **totokan** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:07 pm

Silly elk, the problem does not lie in the fact that there is no signal, but in the more BLATANTLY OBVIOUS fact that coaxial cable does not carry an HD signal, or even one of relatively high quality, for that matter.

lifeisbetterwithketchup · Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:43 pm

totokan wrote:Silly elk, the problem does not lie in the fact that there is no signal, but in the more BLATANTLY OBVIOUS fact that coaxial cable does not carry an HD signal, or even one of relatively high quality, for that matter.

Tell that to my ATSC tuner.

vskid · Post by **vskid** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:02 pm

Negative_Creep wrote:
vskid wrote:(Halo 2 on a 360 at 1080i is beautiful)
If you think Halo 2 looks beautiful... try Halo 3

I couldn't believe after playing Halo 3 how easily I noticed the nasty gfx in Halo 2 lol.

Halo 3 wasn't out yet, and my friend hasn't come over since he got it. I agree that the in game graphics were barely better than regular, but menus were so crisp and clean, they were almost more enjoyable to look at than actually playing the game (well, not quite that good).

totokan wrote:Silly elk, the problem does not lie in the fact that there is no signal, but in the more BLATANTLY OBVIOUS fact that coaxial cable does not carry an HD signal, or even one of relatively high quality, for that matter.

We used to have our Dish receiver hooked to our HDTV by coax (now by composite), looked better than on any SDTV I've seen with any input. I think it really depends on your TV. If you have a good TV, it'll compensate for lack of good input (to a point). If your TV is a piece of crap, it doesn't matter what you tell it to display, it'll do it crappily.