Soldering to batteries. (without the BOOM!)

NES_fanatic · Post by **NES_fanatic** » Sun May 14, 2006 5:48 pm

20/100 vision? Do you know how the vision rating thing works? Because 20/100 means you're as good as blind...

TitaniumHamster · Post by **TitaniumHamster** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:26 pm

G-force wrote: I imagine a lot of flux and a high heat iron would help a lot if you were to do it.

Damn, half the people say High heat, the other half say low heat. All I know now is that I need a HELL lot of flux.

dankicksass wrote:Are you putting a NOAC inside an original NES controller? I'm actually considering putting one inside a Camerica FreedomStick (Advantage knockoff, wireless) just to be uber.

Kinda like that, yeah.... Similar idea...

NES_fanatic wrote:20/100 vision? Do you know how the vision rating thing works? Because 20/100 means you're as good as blind...

That's the joke. I'm not a very funny person, see.

timmeh87 · Post by **timmeh87** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:15 am

i guess the thinking is that with a really hot iron, you can quickly heat up the solder on the surface without allowing the heat to penetrate much, whereas with a colder iron you might have to hold it there for a long time and wait for the whole battery to heat up to melting temperature (about 200 deg. C).

for this reason, a hotter iron is probably better, but that dosent mean the absolute hottest iron possible is the best choice.

Post by **Gamelver** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:30 pm

a soldering gun, for example, would not be preferable

...perhaps a 60W iron...

It works fine with a 30W iron, though...but the battery did get pretty hot

.

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:37 pm

woot! old thread! well my question is about batteries + heat so it's raised for a reason. is hot glue hot enough to damage a NiMH battery? i'm finally assembling my Gameboy64 and i just want to know if it's safe. how do you secure your batteries (the internal kind, not removable ones)?
EDIT: i think i got a solution: wrap tape around the batteries and glue to that. but still, would batteries get damaged without the tape?

shmagoogin77 · Post by **shmagoogin77** » Tue May 23, 2006 9:30 pm

i dont think hot glue is as hot as hot solder

vskid · Post by **vskid** » Wed May 24, 2006 6:46 am

daguuy wrote:woot! old thread! well my question is about batteries + heat so it's raised for a reason. is hot glue hot enough to damage a NiMH battery? i'm finally assembling my Gameboy64 and i just want to know if it's safe. how do you secure your batteries (the internal kind, not removable ones)?
EDIT: i think i got a solution: wrap tape around the batteries and glue to that. but still, would batteries get damaged without the tape?

I think it will be fine. You can touch the glue right as it comes out and it isn't nearing as painful as a soldering iron.

Krepticor · Post by **Krepticor** » Wed May 24, 2006 8:54 am

yea soldering irons take chunks of skin out

A hot glue gun leaves a blister at best (most likely ten seconds of swearing)

shmagoogin77 · Post by **shmagoogin77** » Wed May 24, 2006 3:06 pm

like in that one episode of 24 they use a soldering iron to torture jack

joevennix · Post by **joevennix** » Wed May 24, 2006 3:11 pm

I though you couldn't solder directly to alkaline batteries because you might accidentally cover the vent or something, leading to explosion. maybe I'm thinking of something else.

G-force · Post by **G-force** » Wed May 24, 2006 5:13 pm

timmeh87 wrote:i guess the thinking is that with a really hot iron, you can quickly heat up the solder on the surface without allowing the heat to penetrate much, whereas with a colder iron you might have to hold it there for a long time and wait for the whole battery to heat up to melting temperature (about 200 deg. C).

for this reason, a hotter iron is probably better, but that dosent mean the absolute hottest iron possible is the best choice.

Exactly. If you're soldering to a battery you don't want to hold the iron on there too long or it might wreck it, you only want it on there a couple seconds. That and a lower heat iron might not even be able to heat up the metal to the point solder would stick to it because the entire metal area of the battery would act as a heatsink pulling heat from where you want it. I had this trouble when I was soldering to the large ground area on the side of an N64. Solder wouldn't stick unless I used a higher heat iron because the large copper are of the ground was acting like a heatsink and was dissipating the heat as fast as the iron could provide it.

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Wed May 24, 2006 7:05 pm

well my question's answered.

i soldered to my batteries (actually i soldered to the tabs but same difference) without the tabs even getting warm so here's how i did it:

-lemon juice! on the battery
-melt blob of solder on soldering iron tip
-touch the lemon juice with it really quick, it'll stick
-tin wire
-touch tinned wire to the solder on the battery
-melt it really quickly with at least a 30w iron
-say "Woohoo!"