i know a lot of people on here are probably still in high school, but im certain some on here are old men like me and possibly computer professinoals.
anyone have any microsoft certs? im working on the MSDST right now, i dont need it for my job, nor am i looking to change careers or anything...i dont do anything directly computer related right now, i just think the material that this cert is made up of is very relevant to what i do for fun, and it would be a challenge to try and pass the tests and get it.
ive been researching what to do for a while, and now im full on in the midst of studying hardcore. i ordered a book off amazon (along with bens book) which is on the way, and im using some other web-based study aids and hope to take the test sometime in the beginning of april.
probably i have reached the pinnacle of nerd-ism to be taking MS certs basically for the fun of it but i dont care. the more i think about doing this (and building a VCSp) the more i feel compelled to do it, like its the most important thing in the world, and if i could do it i would feel really good about myself.
so..........anyone else?
microsoft certifications???
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do you? and if you arent using your skills for that, then what? the forces of evil?!?!?! GASP!!
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my dad is geting a microsoft cert and it is taking him forever so just a heads up and he is a programmer who knows windows is crappy
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first of all, you dont mention (and probably dont know) what certit is taking him forever so just a heads up
second of all, whats 'taking forever'? the test takes an hour probably to take. if you choose to study for 10 years before you take it, thats his choice. doesnt mean he is or that i would be 'forced' to?
and so what if hes a 'programmer'? thats a meaningless title, could be anything. and at any rate, does that make him of super intelligence or something?
your post is full of generalizations and is nearly incoherent, and after having spent a lot time researching things and thinking about it constantly i am almost insulted by it
consider keeping statements like that to yourself in the future
Sounds odd that you'd want to get Certified just for fun. Personally for me as my degree doesnt touch any area of "webpage" or "web design" I'll be looking at that, mostly becuase I've wanted to make a site but havent the knowelge or skill now.
As for Microsoft, the thing is that Cretification for anything from them is really dime a dozen. It will mean something to people that are not computer gurus (and I use the term lossly), the others will know its nothing really special.
As for Microsoft, the thing is that Cretification for anything from them is really dime a dozen. It will mean something to people that are not computer gurus (and I use the term lossly), the others will know its nothing really special.
vskid wrote:Nerd = likes school, does all their homework, dies if they don't get 100% on every assignment
Geek = likes technology, dies if the power goes out and his UPS dies too
I am a geek.
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Not true. Though there has been a lot of press and talk over the years about "paper MCSEs" (Microsoft Certified System Engineers who have no real world experience, but only trained specifically to pass the certification exams), or any other Microsoft cert for that matter, holding a certification still carries clout. It may not prove any specific knowledge/experience you may have, but it does prove that you are fairly intelligent and that you have the drive to stay the course (no pun intended) and study and give up your own free time to accomplish your goals.Sparkfist wrote:As for Microsoft, the thing is that Cretification for anything from them is really dime a dozen. It will mean something to people that are not computer gurus (and I use the term lossly(sic)), the others will know its nothing really special.
Additionally, some jobs require certifications, and even if they don't the certifications help add credibility. Example: I work in a mostly Microsoft shop, I need to hire a new DBA (database administrator). I've settled on 2 applicants with similar perceived skills and experience. One is an MCDBA (Microsoft Certified Database Administrator), the other is not. All other things being equal, I would choose the one who was certified.
Finally, you're argument:
doesn't really hold water. If this was the case then my question to the individual without the certification would be, "If the certifications are a-dime-a-dozen, why don't you have one?"Sparkfist wrote:As for Microsoft, the thing is that Cretification for anything from them is really dime a dozen.
My comments about certifcations above aren't really specific to Microsoft. The same principles apply to all certs, whether they be Cisco, A+, etc. I'm not saying that you have to go out and get Microsoft certified, I'm just saying that if you're in a field where you can get certified, you might as well do so - it won't hurt, and in more cases than not, it will help.
Satan165, what is MSDST? I'm in the middle of completing my MCSD certification (Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer). In the past I had started MCSE certification, but never finished. I'd like to finish that after my MCSD and then maybe to the MCDBA after that.
heres some info about the MSDST
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcdst/default.asp
saying its a dime a dozen and meaningless is horsecrap
besides the fact that i said i wasnt getting it to leverage a better job, just to see if i could basically, as well to expand my knowledge of windows for my own personal uses
and jeep....thats exactly the point i was trying to make, thank you
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcdst/default.asp
saying its a dime a dozen and meaningless is horsecrap
besides the fact that i said i wasnt getting it to leverage a better job, just to see if i could basically, as well to expand my knowledge of windows for my own personal uses
and jeep....thats exactly the point i was trying to make, thank you
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Perhaps he was comparing the number of MCSEs to the number of Linux certified personel.
And I seriously doubt it's meaningless. A good part of my sophomore year of college will be classes geared toward an MCSE certification, but I will also be tring to get Comptia certificationss, like A+, Net+, and their Redhat Linux certification.
I'm pretty sure I could pass the A+ now if I had to, but I'll stay in the curriculum. I'll likely learn extra stuff in that class by working on my own stuff.
People with XP systems are lucky, but ill prepared. I suggest working on Dos and 95 on some 486 ISA boards(non PnP). We'll see how skilled you really are then, esp if you also work on one of those funky 40MHz FSB mobos. ^^* (...That doesn't dound like a 19-year-old...I sound like I'm in my thirties there... -_-*)
(PS. I have a Windows 3.0 tutorial video from 1990 and am planning to install a video capture card soon. Should I capture the video just for kicks?)
And I seriously doubt it's meaningless. A good part of my sophomore year of college will be classes geared toward an MCSE certification, but I will also be tring to get Comptia certificationss, like A+, Net+, and their Redhat Linux certification.
I'm pretty sure I could pass the A+ now if I had to, but I'll stay in the curriculum. I'll likely learn extra stuff in that class by working on my own stuff.
People with XP systems are lucky, but ill prepared. I suggest working on Dos and 95 on some 486 ISA boards(non PnP). We'll see how skilled you really are then, esp if you also work on one of those funky 40MHz FSB mobos. ^^* (...That doesn't dound like a 19-year-old...I sound like I'm in my thirties there... -_-*)
(PS. I have a Windows 3.0 tutorial video from 1990 and am planning to install a video capture card soon. Should I capture the video just for kicks?)