Army Strong.

HotDog-Cart · Post by **HotDog-Cart** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:12 pm

Lol, I know I know.

But I imagine this. If someones looking at your resume and your records of previous jobs and such, and they seen that you worked in military. They'd be pretty wow'ed.

I dont know man. Didnt we have a few members that used to or still work in the military?

Motoman · Post by **Motoman** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:26 pm

HotDog-Cart wrote:Lol, I know I know.

But I imagine this. If someones looking at your resume and your records of previous jobs and such, and they seen that you worked in military. They'd be pretty wow'ed.

I dont know man. Didnt we have a few members that used to or still work in the military?

Touche, but wouldn't that basically depend on having completed a session in the armed forces and a decent-good completion of a college/university? If so, then you must also consider if you will attend a college/university after completing military sevice. Then again, all of the previously mentioned depends on the position you are vying for, plus the employer.

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:30 pm

I have, for the past year, considered going into the Air Force after college.
I've have both the Air Force and Coast Guard recommended to me by many people.

There's one thing I hope most people thinking of the Armed Forces will realize:
99% of the time, people who have been in the Armed Forces will easily, without question recommend that you go in, they'll say it's a great opportunity, it'll start you in on a career, it'll do many great things. They aren't lying.
People who haven't been in the Armed Forces, and who have never considered it, will say the complete opposite.

In my most honest opinion, the voice of experience is a loud shout over the whisper of the ignorant poop egress.

I hate it when people criticize the Armed Forces, simply because at the end of a war its the popular thing to do, and people will say just about anything to try and convince you the Armed Forces are a bad thing.

And also, being a footsoldier isn't your only option, there are many [MANY] jobs on-base that you can do.

Post by **bicostp** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:04 pm

HotDog-Cart wrote:But I imagine this. If someones looking at your resume and your records of previous jobs and such, and they seen that you worked in military. They'd be pretty wow'ed.

If you were a technician or an officer maybe, but being a foot soldier probably doesn't pad the ol' resume much.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:28 pm

bicostp wrote:
HotDog-Cart wrote:But I imagine this. If someones looking at your resume and your records of previous jobs and such, and they seen that you worked in military. They'd be pretty wow'ed.
If you were a technician or an officer maybe, but being a foot soldier probably doesn't pad the ol' resume much.

It sure doesn't hurt, though. Besides, you sign up for the military, you're theirs for a good chunk of time, plenty to rise through the ranks to a position of at least some stature, if you apply yourself.

CTFan

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:43 pm

I pretty much agree with bic. Canada doesn't have to worry too much about defense because it doesn't piss off the world, that's the US.

And about the glory stuff, people don't want you to go somewhere and fight. What do you think all the anti-war stuff going on is about? To be brutally honest, when soldiers die, they're viewed as statistics. You won't be remembered by many people and since you die, you don't get to defend much freedom. If you don't die, you'll only make more enemies and that does not bring you respect and praise and stuff. This might be me being a heartless bastard, but I consider people who join the army to go fight in the middle east (which is what happens if you join the army in this state of the world) foolish. There's no hope for peace ever in the middle east because it has significant religious history (not to mention oil, but i'll try to stay away from politics) and people always have and always will fight to the death to control it.

Why do you think the army advertises to teenagers? One reason is because they're strong and full of energy, but mainly because they make more rash decisions than older more fully developed people and don't fully understand the seriousness of death and going to war. They view it as action, being a hero, and glory when in reality, you're fighting for a person with an agenda.

But if you're willing to risk everything to slightly improve a resume, go ahead.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:51 pm

daguuy wrote:I pretty much agree with bic. Canada doesn't have to worry too much about defense because it doesn't piss off the world, that's the US.

And about the glory stuff, people don't want you to go somewhere and fight. What do you think all the anti-war stuff going on is about? To be brutally honest, when soldiers die, they're viewed as statistics. You won't be remembered by many people and since you die, you don't get to defend much freedom. If you don't die, you'll only make more enemies and that does not bring you respect and praise and stuff. This might be me being a heartless bastard, but I consider people who join the army to go fight in the middle east (which is what happens if you join the army in this state of the world) foolish. There's no hope for peace ever in the middle east because it has significant religious history (not to mention oil, but i'll try to stay away from politics) and people always have and always will fight to the death to control it.

Why do you think the army advertises to teenagers? One reason is because they're strong and full of energy, but mainly because they make more rash decisions than older more fully developed people and don't fully understand the seriousness of death and going to war. They view it as action, being a hero, and glory when in reality, you're fighting for a person with an agenda.

But if you're willing to risk everything to slightly improve a resume, go ahead.

That was sick. Seriously sick. Especially that last bit. To improve a resume? Do you honestly believe that's what this is about? There are brave men and women putting their lives on the line to protect freedoms that your ass takes for granted, and you just spat on every single one of them. I reiterate the point that if you know nothing about the subject for which you argue against, either learn up, or don't talk. Just because you refuse to acknowledge a serious problem doesn't mean it's not a problem that needs dealing with.

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:57 pm

CronoTriggerfan wrote:That was sick. Seriously sick. Especially that last bit. To improve a resume? Do you honestly believe that's what this is about? There are brave men and women putting their lives on the line to protect freedoms that your ass takes for granted, and you just spat on every single one of them. I reiterate the point that if you know nothing about the subject for which you argue against, either learn up, or don't talk. Just because you refuse to acknowledge a serious problem doesn't mean it's not a problem that needs dealing with.

Have you noticed an increase in freedom since W sent our heroes to war? I'm not denying it was sick, but I don't buy into all this patriotism crap.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:04 pm

daguuy wrote:
CronoTriggerfan wrote:That was sick. Seriously sick. Especially that last bit. To improve a resume? Do you honestly believe that's what this is about? There are brave men and women putting their lives on the line to protect freedoms that your ass takes for granted, and you just spat on every single one of them. I reiterate the point that if you know nothing about the subject for which you argue against, either learn up, or don't talk. Just because you refuse to acknowledge a serious problem doesn't mean it's not a problem that needs dealing with.
Have you noticed an increase in freedom since W sent our heroes to war? And I know it was sick, I said I was being Brutally honest. I have my opinion and I'm not gonna censor it.

So free elections for the first time EVER in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't an increase in freedom? I'm definitely not advocating that our current situation is being handled well, but that doesn't mean our service members don't deserve respect. And how is defending one's country "crap"? You really have no idea how good you've got it here in the US of A, do you?

CTFan

Twisted Warthog · Post by **Twisted Warthog** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:08 pm

This threads getting intense.

It just seems like the only reason you want to go to the Army HotDog is because you think your going to get some personal and widespread glory or attention from a lot of people. Believe me out of the thousands of people in the Army right now i don't think your going to make much of a difference at all.

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:09 pm

CTF, I'm talking about domestic freedom, not some country that's none of our buisness.Sure they deserve respect for fighting with the intent to defend freedom, but most people who join the army for that purpose don't know that they're not fighting for their country, they're fighting for a person in high power.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:12 pm

daguuy wrote:Sure they deserve respect for fighting with the intent to defend freedom, but most people who join the army for that purpose don't know that they're not fighting for their country, they're fighting for a person in high power.

So our system of checks and balances have no grounding anymore? You wanna see a situation where you fight for one person's agenda, look up who Idi Amin is. To me, that's fighting for "a person in high power". Fighting for a country like America, that's a completely different situation.

daguuy wrote:CTF, I'm talking about domestic freedom, not some country that's none of our buisness.

But that's just it, the middle east IS our business! They made it our business the second we recognized Israel as a country. Now Africa, that's not our business. It's not a threat. But radicals in the middle east sure as hell are.

CTFan

Master of Portables · Post by **Master of Portables** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:13 pm

Twisted Warthog wrote:This threads getting intense.

It just seems like the only reason you want to go to the Army HotDog is because you think your going to get some personal and widespread glory or attention from a lot of people. Believe me out of the thousands of people in the Army right now i don't think your going to make much of a difference at all.

Intense? Its turning into a mini flame fest! I respect everyones opinion and all, but the thread wasn't created to argue, it was created to help someone with a life changing decision, and arguing about war and peace isn't really helping as far as I know...

daguuy · Post by **daguuy** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:15 pm

Arguments are how things are settled, you have to get used to it

You can't get help with a life changing situation without 2 sides supporting their ideas.

CronoTriggerfan wrote:So our system of checks and balances have no grounding anymore?

This is probably going to get deleted or something for being politacal, but no it has no gounding anymore. Gonzalas defends king bush and bush pressures congress to do whatever he wants. Nobody has the power to stop him.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:17 pm

Master of Portables wrote:I respect everyones opinion and all, but the thread wasn't created to argue, it was created to help someone with a life changing decision, and arguing about war and peace isn't really helping as far as I know...

Meh, you're right, sorry I kinda flew off the handle there, I should know better.

Back on track!

CTFan