Army Strong.

nightwheel · Post by **nightwheel** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:51 pm

If the canadian armed forces are anything like the US Army in any way. You should be able to do somthing with computers. Or repair electronics. But what do know, Im just 16. And I don't live in canada either.

Reaperman@home · Post by **Reaperman@home** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:53 pm

I'm about to get out of the navy in a few months when my contract expires, and stick around the area in a government or contractor job. I'm in a hurry to leave, so the military itself is not one of my favorite subjects to bring up, but what it did was move me across country to a very desirable location for my type of work, get me experience in my desired field, face time with what will probably be my future employers and training so specific to the military that a lot of these employers are only looking for ex-military. This is far more than my college years provided me.

The military is no picnic. The hours are long and even entering into it involves a complete reorganization of thoughts and behaviors that will stick with a soldier the rest of his life. The military turns children into men in record time, so if you're looking for respectability there is an obvious fast track there. There's a good chance you will be shopping for a house by age 25.

Are you ready to join the military? Trust me when I say that nobody is ever ready to join the military.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:06 pm

Just a quick second thought, if you find serving your country and adventure to be major draws of the military, but you're scared to death of being killed, ever consider being a field officer in intel, aka, a "spy"? It'd be a very hard job to get, require lots of work, advanced degrees, and probably special schooling, but you'd be serving your country and traveling all around the world. Not saying there's a guarantee you'll come out alive, many are killed, and have to end up fighting and thinking like soldiers at some point; just look at the US embassy in Beirut back in the 80s. And I don't know about Canada, but here in the US, the CIA only hires about 1000-2000 Directorate of Operations (spies in the field) a year, but I don't know how much that's changed since Bush made the NCS.

CTFan

Post by **bicostp** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:28 pm

HotDog-Cart wrote:Like you know. Stay here and protect it incase someone invades or attacks or something.

I'm sorry but why would anyone attack Canada? (Maybe unless everyone else's supply of bacon and maple syrup runs out...) You guys tend to mind your own business and not piss off other countries as far as I know...

ganonbanned wrote:are you saying that that is not glorious, to die for your country?

Without looking anything up, name all the names on the Vietnam memorial, or some other war memorial. They died defending their country, and they don't fit <a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/glory">Webster's definition of glory</a>. If you die in Afganistan or Iraq, you may get your picture and name on TV and your local newspaper, but after that only your family will remember your name. My point is that if you get killed in war, you don't receive glory. All you get is a 6 foot hole in the ground.

If you want to help your country with a far less risk of getting killed, work for a company like Boeing or Raytheon that create the army's supplies.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:36 pm

bicostp wrote:Without looking anything up, name all the names on the Vietnam memorial, or some other war memorial. They died defending their country, and they don't fit <a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/glory">Webster's definition of glory</a>. If you die in Afganistan or Iraq, you may get your picture and name on TV and your local newspaper, but after that only your family will remember your name. My point is that if you get killed in war, you don't receive glory. All you get is a 6 foot hole in the ground.

If you want to help your country with a far less risk of getting killed, work for a company like Boeing or Raytheon that create the army's supplies.

You get to know that you died doing something great, defending freedom and holding up an ideology that everyone deserves the chance to experience. It's all in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, but I consider those people glorious. More importantly, they're heroes. And I'll say it for about the billionth time in this thread, there are other ways to serve, but that doesn't mean the world doesn't need soldiers. Just because you or others may shy away from the idea of being killed in combat doesn't mean it's a job that doesn't need to be done.

CTFan

Twisted Warthog · Post by **Twisted Warthog** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:45 pm

bicostp thats kinda stereotypical.

Post by **bicostp** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:01 pm

Twisted Warthog wrote:bicostp thats kinda stereotypical.

You know I'm not trying to be mean... (And I apologize if it came off that way.)

But honestly when was the last time you heard of Canada attacking anyone? I think they have the right idea; build up enough forces to defend yourself if you're instigated, but don't go attacking random countries just "because".

We Americans, on the other hand, make our own trouble, and it comes back to bite us in the rear.

Twisted Warthog · Post by **Twisted Warthog** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:07 pm

I know you didn't mean any harm. Just i hate it when people say stuff like "Canada was made on wood and bacon and maple syrup" when its not like that at all in Ontario. Maybe B.C.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:13 pm

bicostp wrote:We Americans, on the other hand, make our own trouble, and it comes back to bite us in the rear.

But hey, on the bright side, we've got the best of intentions! Well, sometimes...

Hey, at least we're not stupid enough to get wrapped up in Africa. THAT would be a mess!

CTFan

gamer2 · Post by **gamer2** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:13 pm

History shows that the intellectual are the ones who go off and fight the wars, so dont do it HDC.

HotDog-Cart · Post by **HotDog-Cart** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:37 pm

Well, really. I know that nothing is as it seems on tv.

Thats why I asked for a video of a soldier in iraq filming it all with a video camera.

Ive seen one before, and it scared me.

I wanna be glorious, I want to serve my country. I feel that war is getting out of control, and maybe I can help stop it.

Reaperman@home · Post by **Reaperman@home** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:59 pm

HotDog-Cart wrote:I wanna be glorious, I want to serve my country. I feel that war is getting out of control, and maybe I can help stop it.

Don't worry, they'll get rid of that kind of attitude in bootcamp

specter539 · Post by **specter539** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:26 pm

if you like fighting, but dont want to die, stick to America's army. If you dont want to fight, but want to help your country, get a job in some sort of security thing. My cousin is in Iraq right now. He started as a tank infantry or something like that, and is now working on helicopter maintance at one of the bases right outside of Iraq. He does a lot there. A month ago he saved a bunch of guys, by not letting them use a helicopter because he thought something was wrong with it. A bearing in the rotor assembly was broke.

My point is you can still do things for your country, with out having to sacrifice your life. look into technical things.

jedi knight · Post by **jedi knight** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:30 pm

Edit by mod: No politics here!

Motoman · Post by **Motoman** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:47 pm

jedi knight wrote:Last I checked, there isn't a real war going on right now. All of this Iraq bullcrap is just for oil.

No political discussions. If you're going to reply at all, then at least offer some insight or suggestions coinciding with the topic, that being HDC's dilemma of joining the armed forces or not. In my opinion, HDC, just like everyones stated before me, the military is not something to be taken lightly, while it is up to you whether or not you join you should know that the only glory you will receive is from your family, in addition to the satisfaction of knowing that helped instill a period of peace. Canada will NOT prepare a parade for your return from conflict. It seems that you are looking to join the army on adolescent whims rather than a deeply thought out......thought. (Yay redundancy!

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