Pirating = Stealing

nitro2k01 · Post by **nitro2k01** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:20 pm

Rekarp wrote:Ah? So a Ferrari is a very expensive car but I don't think its worth the price tag so I should just go out and steal one? Your logic is flawed. You are STEALING property by pirating games, music, movies. Pirating is exactly like walking into Best Buy and pocketing a game.

Did you even read/comprehend my last post?
Is it because of stupidity or stubbornness you refuse to realize the difference between copying and stealing? As I explained earlier, inflation is a much better (truthful) analogy to piracy.

Edit: Following the same logic, adblock is stealing too.

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:21 pm

nitro2k01 wrote:
Rekarp wrote:Ah? So a Ferrari is a very expensive car but I don't think its worth the price tag so I should just go out and steal one? Your logic is flawed. You are STEALING property by pirating games, music, movies. Pirating is exactly like walking into Best Buy and pocketing a game.
Did you even read/comprehend my last post?
Is it because of stupidity or stubbornness you refuse to realize the difference between copying and stealing? As I explained earlier, inflation is a much better (truthful) analogy to piracy.

Nope. Taking a product without paying is stealing in my book.

nitro2k01 · Post by **nitro2k01** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:23 pm

Rekarp wrote:Nope. Taking a product without paying is stealing in my book.

Do you agree with the statement that adblock is stealing?

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:24 pm

nitro2k01 wrote:
Rekarp wrote:Nope. Taking a product without paying is stealing in my book.
Do you agree with the statement that adblock is stealing?

Yep. I don't run adblock. You are keeping Beer away from Ben when you use adblock on this site. You sick bastards.

Kurt_ · Post by **Kurt_** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:24 pm

How about this.

Copying is to pirating (yaarg) as stealing is to...stealing!

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:25 pm

Kurt_ wrote:How about this.

Copying is to pirating (yaarg) as stealing is to...stealing!

Kurt 2012

Harshboy · Post by **Harshboy** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:28 pm

Don't care at all, I will pirate whatever I want for personal use and nothing will ever stop me from doing it.

I'm cheap and since I have no job and I am attending High school, I have no money or source of income. A failing economy doesn't help much either.

Why should I not be able to have fun just because I can't afford to?

The only system in my house that has all legit games is my Xbox 360 because I am not going to get banned from XBL. Xbox 360 is pointless without XBL.

Fun Fact: The first pirated piece of software I have ever "owned" is Nero 6 by ORiON. My Uncle gave me it when I modded my Xbox so I could burn my games. I've given it to a few people, I think it might have been gamemasterAS's first pirated app too.

This should sum everything up

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:29 pm

Stealing is walking into a store and dropping a couple candy bars into your bag.
Piracy is walking into a store and cloning the candy bars and bringing those home with you.

Post by **Triton** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 pm

i agree with nitro on this one, yes piracy is not legal but no piracy is NOT the same thing as theft.

theft= somebody has a dollar, you take that dollar leaving them with no dollar
piracy= you see that persons dollar, make a photocopy of said dollar thus devaluing their dollar by having a non legal duplicate of said dollar.

you are not depriving something from the person, you are not taking money out of their pocket you are simply not purchacing something you did not intent to purchase regardless leaving the status quo relativly unchanged. yes some people activly decide not to buy something and to pirate instead but of the people who pirate i would estimate that far from 100% had the means or intent to purchase the software legally then found the "free" alternative.

not every pirated copy of a piece of software is a lost sale

SonyPortableizer · Post by **SonyPortableizer** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:38 pm

Valium almost has it
piracy is like originally buying those candy bars, THEN cloning them

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:40 pm

SonyPortableizer wrote:Valium almost has it
piracy is like originally buying those candy bars, THEN cloning them

Except you're not buying anything when you pirate stuff.

Post by **bicostp** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:49 pm

Rekarp wrote:Yep. I don't run adblock. You are keeping Beer away from Ben when you use adblock on this site. You sick bastards.

That's what whitelists are for!

(AdBlock disabled on the forums and the homepage.)

Harshboy wrote:Why should I not be able to have fun just because I can't afford to?

I'm sorry but this unwarranted sense of entitlement is the thing about my generation that annoys me second most. (First being the collective taste in music.) If you can't afford it, either earn it or settle for something else. That spoiled "I want it so I get it" attitude is partially to blame for the failing economy; people took out loans on top of loans to afford fancy things they otherwise could not get, and quite frankly they never needed them.

blackbox_dev · Post by **blackbox_dev** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:04 pm

I think the way a lot of people see it is that they have two options: 1) pirate it and don't buy it, or 2) don't pirate it and don't buy it. Either way, the publisher doesn't get any money, so it's apparently ok.

Aguiluz · Post by **Aguiluz** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:09 pm

bicostp wrote:
Rekarp wrote:Yep. I don't run adblock. You are keeping Beer away from Ben when you use adblock on this site. You sick bastards.
That's what whitelists are for! (AdBlock disabled on the forums and the homepage.)

I never block BenHeck ads. I can live with them, really. I block offensive, naked, noisy, bandwidth intensive and CPU-heavy ads.

Rekarp · Post by **Rekarp** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:12 pm

So we agree that Pirating software is

1. Wrong
2. Illegal
3. Unethical
4. Douche bag move

Ok its not EXACTLY like stealing but its pretty darn close.

I agree with Bic 110%